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Reference That Says If Indian Head Cents And Buffalo Nickels Can Still Be Used As Money?
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Old Post Posted Yesterday   5:30 pm
Regarding the half cents, I don't get it. In 1792 "An Act to Provide For a Copper Coinage" specifically called for the minting of half cents, and that "no copper coins or pieces whatsoever except the said cents and half-cents, shall pass current as money, or shall be paid, or offered to be paid or received in payment for any debt, demand, claims, matter or thing whatsoever." It sounds like the copper cent and half cent were legal tender to me. What am I missing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinage_Act_of_1792
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Cleaning, How To Detect
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Old Post Posted Yesterday   3:10 pm
Here's a thread on identifying whizzed coins. http://goccf.com/t/423682
Forum: Main Coin Forum
 
1919 SLQ Die Lines Help
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Old Post Posted Yesterday   10:51 am
Here's one on Heritage. https://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-l...bnail-071515 Two of them are listed as having file lines or file marks.

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...the importance of this piece resides in a series of heavy die file lines in the field behind Liberty's head, slanting up toward the left. Examples of this date from the filed die are quite rare, especially in Mint State.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Variety and Error Coins

Reference That Says If Indian Head Cents And Buffalo Nickels Can Still Be Used As Money?
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Old Post Posted Yesterday   01:35 am
The Articles of Confederation were not the United States of America. Discuss (ad nauseam).
I don't know what "Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks" covers in its entirety, but Federal reserve notes weren't printed until 1914 and "circulating notes" seems like a deliberate key phrase.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
1842 Seated Liberty Half With Possible RPD
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  11:32 pm
Has to be VP-003 (I don't know what VP- means...) In fact the whole date is doubled and part of an 8 is supposed to be right of the shield point in the gown. https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...1891/818143/
Excellent image!
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Variety and Error Coins
 
Reference That Says If Indian Head Cents And Buffalo Nickels Can Still Be Used As Money?
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  11:21 pm
The funny thing to me is that "Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts" implies that they are legal tender for public charges, taxes, and dues. The only thing excluded from the list is debts. Not that I would pay my taxes in foreign gold...
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
1928 Peace $ Find
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  11:04 pm
I scrolled through this wondering why someone bumped an 8 year old thread, and boom! I can see where all the tiny abrasions in the fields got you the 62, but it looks great. I waited years to do the same with ANACS conservation, with similar results. Well worth doing on this one, it looks fantastic.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Is This Walking Liberty A Cleaned Coin?
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  10:43 pm

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I wonder if people typically clean coins to get rid of patina?
I grew up in the era when mom and grandma polished the silver. It was logical to do the same to your coins. Tarnish was bad, shiny was good. That may have been the case here.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Reference That Says If Indian Head Cents And Buffalo Nickels Can Still Be Used As Money?
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  10:33 pm
https://www.govregs.com/uscode/titl..._section5103

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§#8239;5103. Legal tender

United States coins [emphasis mine] and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
The key phrase it seems is "United States coins." The reason you can't find anything that specifically says this or that coin is still legal tender is, as @Hondo Boguss says, because none of them have ever been demonetized. Thus, interpreting the plain text of the law, any coin that says United States on it is still legal tender. So you could still spend your 1792 half disme, but presumable not your 1652 New England threepence. Federal Reserve notes started in 1914, so currency from before that isn't legal tender. On the other hand, there is no federal law requiring a business to accept coins or currency. So whether a merchant could accept Jefferson nickels but not buffaloes would depend on state law.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Tampering With TPG Slabs
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  8:25 pm
How often have you seen a side view of a slab posted on ebay though? NGC spent $100k going after that guy so it wasn't a small potatoes operation. I'm not saying it isn't difficult, but the buyer can easily claim the slab was like that when they received it, etc. The NGC guy had to buy two coins - the real slabbed one and one to replace it with. The crack, replace and return scammer only has to buy the lesser coin if they get the refund. I can see where it would be a tempting scam, that's all I'm saying.
Forum: Main Coin Forum
 
Why Do "Farewell To The Penny" Rolls Sell For So Much?
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  1:36 pm
Resurrected after 7 years... This sounds a lot like the US 2023 "director's strike" Peace dollars. There's nothing to distinguish them from any other coin except the COA. Marketing works!
Forum: Canadian Coins and Colonial Tokens
 
Another 1799 Bust Dollar Real Or Fake
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  12:46 pm
Wow, that's kinda funny. Take that, common marks!
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Tampering With TPG Slabs
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Old Post Posted 09/19/2023  02:37 am
I understand your concern. I've been dealing with a lot of craigslist people over the past couple weeks and it seems like half the people out there are working some kind of scam.

Recently there was a large settlement involving NGC and a "dealer" who was cracking their slabs and replacing the coins, so you're right to think that someone could be playing a refund game using the same tactic. It's essentially the same scam in reverse. With ebay strongly favoring buyers in a refund situation, I can see where a crack and return scam would be easier and more profitable. Photograph the coins with the certs and identifying marks clearly visible.

https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/11938/
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1652 Oak Tree Threepence Found Buried...
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  5:37 pm
The highest price on Heritage for an oak tree threepence was $37k back in 2007 for an MS62. Another AU53 in 2019 for $36k. No idea where they got $1.7m.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
CC Placement On US CC Trade Dollars
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  1:23 pm
I'll add that you should be very wary of counterfeits in this series. There seem to be a lot of CC fakes going around lately. I can't say for sure on these but on the last one the lower denticles look suspicious to me.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Variety and Error Coins
 
Canadian 1968 10 Cents / 25 Cents 80% Silver Transition Error? Any Known Coin Examples?
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  12:48 pm
XRF stands for X-ray Fluorescence, a spectrometer that measures composition. I suppose an 80% planchet could have been "stuck in the hopper" like the US 1943 bronze cents.
Forum: Canadian Variety and Error Coins
 
Fake Coins Just Trash?
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  12:25 pm
If they're recent Chinese fakes I personally would just bend or cut them and toss them in the trash. If they're souvenir fakes your grandparents bought on their trip somewhere, I might keep them for sentimental reasons. And if they're known contemporary counterfeits, I'd keep them and make sure they're labeled as such. A problem I see with passing them on to an anonymous "black cabinet" collector is you don't know whether that person really intends to keep them for research, or just wants them cheap in order to scam somebody else. In that case I suppose you could stamp or scratch R or COPY onto them.
Forum: Main Coin Forum
 
CC Placement On US CC Trade Dollars
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  12:04 pm
Heritage auction archives would be a good place to look at the MM placements for these. The CC's are all over the place since each working die was punched individually, and it was single C punches so even the spacing between the C's varies considerably (as well as different sizes and styles of the C, as seen in your two examples). I could be wrong, but the only time I'd expect exactly the same position and size for both 1874 and 1875 is if the reverse die was reused across years.
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Variety and Error Coins
 
Are There Any Regular Issue US Coins With Sheldon R-6 Rarity?
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Old Post Posted 09/18/2023  02:43 am
Well, there is only one known 1652 NE threepence, but you probably don't count that as a US coin, although certainly it was a "regular issue." There are 12 surviving 1933 $20 with only one legal to own, but does regular issue imply authorized release to the public? The original mintage of 1804 dollars was much less than 30, but I don't recall how many types 2 and 3 there are, or where that fits into your definition. Same with the 1894-S 10c - they're designated as proof but technically they aren't, and again depends on what regular issue means. 1873-CC no arrows dime has only one, but are you excluding that as a variety? Others to consider - 1866 no motto $1, 1870-S $1 (I don't know why you're excluding that one).
Forum: US Classic and Colonial Coins
 
Can Anyone Verify If This Is 1982 Capped Die And Value?
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Old Post Posted 09/17/2023  10:07 pm
What's on the other side? Where do you get 1822 from? It's costs almost nothing to type more words.
Forum: US Modern Variety and Error Coins
 


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