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Old Post Posted 05/19/2025  05:15 am
Another one to post in this catch up

Pius VI 1796 Muraiola of 4 Bolognini from the Bologna mint. The reverse here shows Saint Petronius blessing the city on his right, holding pastoral.




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Old Post Posted 05/18/2025  02:49 am
A recent pickup

Pius VI 1780 2 Giuli (0.2 Scudo) with the usual Personification of the Holy Mother church seated on clouds holding a set of keys, church building in the background on the reverse



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Old Post Posted 05/17/2025  02:03 am
I hadn't posted this one before.

Pius VI 1778 1 Carlin (or 5 Baiocco) from the Bologna mint - and indeed it uses that city's coat of arms. The reverse shows a lily.

This coin is different enough from the Numista example that I think it should have it's own entry number (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pi...376658.html)
Unless my search has missed it. The shield type is quite a separate variety.




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Old Post Posted 05/16/2025  03:01 am
I hadn't posted this one before - a rather modest coin.

A Benedict XIV 1756 2 Giuli. The reverse shows the personification of the Holy Mother church seated on clouds holding a set of keys, church building in the background which must be one of the most used reverses in all the Papal states series.


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Old Post Posted 05/15/2025  04:02 am
I'll go again :)

A ND (1744) Quattrino of Benedict XIV. The lettering on this coin seems very parsimonious compared to others.

BEN .XIV.
Papal heraldic achievement

.EP. S. VBAL
St Peter standing


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Old Post Posted 05/14/2025  09:39 am
Oops - posted a duplicate my mistake so deleted that post.

This is what I should have posted!


Innocent XII ND (1699) 1 Quattrino (Gubbio mint)
Paul seated right, holding upright sword in right hand and open book in left


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Old Post Posted 05/14/2025  01:02 am
Nice one jdsstrat. That one is in fantastic condition. I assume it's a testone and a silver coin?
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Old Post Posted 05/13/2025  08:49 am

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nice one Bacc - heavy coin, how big is it?


It's nearly 30mm. Quite different from most of the Quattrino's, Giulio's, Deniers etc that I have,
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Old Post Posted 05/13/2025  02:49 am
This is a recent pickup that I'm really pleased with. It's a surprisingly weighty coin in hand at 10g

It's a 1632 1 Teston from the rule of Urban VIII - with my favourite heraldic device. If I was ever to specialise on one Papal States ruler I think it would be this one. (ie, if I win the lottery)

VRBAN . VIII . PONT. MAX
Papal heraldic achievement

S * PETRVS * ALMA * ROMA
Saint Peter seated holding keys

There are two main varieties of this coin with different obverse legends and shield shape - this one being the semi-oval one.





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Old Post Posted 05/13/2025  02:32 am

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It seems Gregory was engaged in "dueling alphabet" with Henry III, the incumbent French king, whose analagous coin looked like this:


That's really interesting - definitely aligned designs. Maybe to make them more acceptable or even understandable by the local populace?
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Old Post Posted 05/13/2025  02:23 am

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Another Clement VIII douzain, minted at Avignon, 1595, minus the counterstamp


Nice addition to the thread - Great to see a really clear date too.
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Old Post Posted 05/12/2025  02:31 am
I have a few I missed to add.

This is my only coin from Gregory XIII (1572-1585)

It has the unusual denomination of "2 Sols Parisis" and again is styled after a French feudal coin.


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Old Post Posted 05/09/2025  04:23 am
I was going to post this one which does fall under the Papal States category (at least Numista categorise it as such) though isn't issued by a Pope. Hopefully it is within the scope of the thread. The issuing authority is the Roman Senate (1188-1252). The below is the description given on the Numista site but this example seems slightly different.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces155375.html


SENATVS • P • Q • R
Senatus Popolusque Romanorum
Cross with misshapened omega, point, alpha and star in quarters.
Legend around

ROMA CAPVT MVN
"S" flanked by two horizontal half moons above comb-like instrument with 11 teeth.




The above example seems to have a sun and moon either side of the central S rather than 2 moons in the upper quadrants of the reverse inner section. (kinda like the Tibetian 5 Sho coins that have variations of sun and moon)
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Old Post Posted 05/09/2025  03:48 am

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Cardinal Robert Prevost becomes first American Pope and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

And he's quite young too at only 69.
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Old Post Posted 05/08/2025  03:28 am
Thanks very much Sap - that's really helpful.
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Old Post Posted 05/07/2025  06:07 am
I wonder if anyone could narrow this down a bit further. The reverse seems double struck so that doesn't help much unless you know what you are specifically looking for but the obverse seems to suggest a "O" character at 5 o'clock. None of the the more common deniers of Achaea seems to fit - list below

Denier - William II :+:G•PRINCEPS.
Charles I d'Anjou + • K • R • PRINC' ACh'
Florent de Hainaut - +: FLORENS: P: ACh:
Isabella + YSABELLA. P. ACh
Philip I of Savoy + + DE CLARENCIA +
Philip II + PHS. P. ACh TAR.
Mathilde de Hainaut + mAhAVTA. P. ACh'
John of Gravina "+Ioh'S PACh'E"


The only option on Numista that seems to have an "O" character at 5 o'clock is the 1 Denier Tornese - Martin Zaccaria - but it doesn't seem to work elsewhere either.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces192699.html

Happy to hear any suggestions




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Old Post Posted 05/07/2025  02:38 am
Next up I have this one.


John XXII (1316-1334) ND 1 Denier (1 Picciolo) where the lettering is easier to read than some of this era. The mint is Macerata, Italy

+ •PP IOhANNES •
+ •VICESIMV •SEC • DVS


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Old Post Posted 05/05/2025  03:43 am

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That is a skill in itself in numismatics being able to identify some of those medievel and Roman coins.


The trick is to know what should be there before you even look for it.


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I've been told that this mess of a coin is from Comtat Venaissin


A challenging identification indeed.
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Old Post Posted 05/04/2025  07:51 am
While Numista is a fantastic resource - and the amount of detail on it is outstanding - it can be a bit tricky to navigate and search on for older material at times - especially when coverage is not complete.

The next coin I have was apparently minted in Rome - it's a ND (1370-1377) 1 Bolognino issued under Gregory XI. The obverse legend reads GG . PP . VND (Facing bust wearing triregnum) but I'm not entirely sure what all the letters stand for (PP being for Pater Patriae of course). The reverse lettering (+. DE ROMA) at least makes the mint clear.





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Old Post Posted 05/03/2025  01:09 am
Many thanks tdziemia for that extra background on the shield shape - very interesting. The obverse of that coin is really very well preserved and the reverse is too though my photo perhaps doesn't highlight that well.

I think I might be on my own now to post a few more. (I also have some that I should have posted earlier but perhaps I can add those on at the end.

Today I can post this one. It's issued under Martin V 1417-1431 at the Papal enclave in southern France - Comtat Venaissin - and minted at Avignon.

The obverse shows a mitre atop two "P" with a column between. The column is the symbol of the Colonna family which is that of Martin V. The reverse has a Cross with mitre and keys repeated in alternation The denomination is a 1/4 Groschen.






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