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| C.1920 Chinese 1 Yuan 'Fat Man Dollar' . Counterfeit
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Albert
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United States
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 Posted 09/18/2023 4:21 pm
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My go to SG method is much more simple when it comes to large coins where best accuracy is not critical.
To see the wrong composition from good coin silver it works well enough.
But as is usually the case, my suspended N-52 magnets would indicate if I should bother to make the SG test or not.
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| C.1920 Chinese 1 Yuan 'Fat Man Dollar' . Counterfeit
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Albert
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United States
1609 Posts |
Posted 09/18/2023 2:36 pm
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Already mentioned above about that numeral 5 that doesn't belong.
Apart from that, the smoking gun to me is not only the numeral 5, but it is on a 6 character legend.
The 6 character should just have a numeral 3.
Other years 8, 9 and 10 appear on the 7 character legend. |
| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| Unfamiliar Chinese Mintmark
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Albert
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Posted 09/16/2023 9:59 pm
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This mint mark is likely Boo-ning, but in a different style?
It's from the modern period 1905 and not found in earlier or older catalogs of Manchu mint marks.
Does anyone know of any catalog, PDF or book that shows these modern struck mint marks?
Maybe a page or so, a special array with illustrations and a legend to the location?
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| | Forum: Identification: Unidentified Coins, Medals, and Tokens |
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| Maria Theresia Thalers
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Albert
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Posted 09/13/2023 6:43 pm
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Yeah I guess I wasn't thinking of the dates and don't recall the Thalers I had.
About Shooting Thalers:
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I'm partial to the Shooting Thalers...purchased the 1883 Swiss 5 franc Lugano a while back. Fascinating stories and coin.
My good friend Craig Keplinger was known as a dealer for these at the coin show circuits. Maybe group members here acquired Swiss coins or Shooting Thalers from him. |
| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| Chinese Large Cash - Probably Fakes?
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Albert
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United States
1609 Posts |
Posted 09/11/2023 1:01 pm
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5 looks like H22.951
6 looks like H22.931 with a different mint mark, more like H22.702
Good or bad at least those H numbers will give you direction in finding auction records for authentic photos and specs for comparison. |
| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| Chinese Large Cash - Probably Fakes?
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Albert
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1609 Posts |
Posted 09/10/2023 10:37 pm
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I know nothing about such large pieces, but I do know there can be some very large legitimate pieces from
China and Vietnam.
I only happen to have a charm I use as a paper weight.
Maybe someone can match one in Schjoth or Hartill?
I deal in one and two cash cast coins and modern struck cash.
So I'm no help here.
I like to reply even if no help because that way the OP at least knows the post was looked at. |
| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| French Indo China 1908 A - Underweight
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Albert
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Posted 09/09/2023 3:53 pm
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he expressed surprise that anyone would bother to counterfeit such a "low value" coin
I used to think the same thing earlier when I began accumulating fake coins for study and documentation.
In this case the seller has a reasonable question.
Might not make sense as the seller presumes.
But I learned the seller just has mistaken belief.
Certainly a magnet slide would be improper for a highly graded coin.
A slide would have no value over a suspended coin or suspended magnets for an initial silver check.
I use my slides for show & tell with customers weeding out good and bad coins that are presumed to be silver.
No coins in any population are candidates at all for potential grading.
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| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| Help Identifying Chinese Coins (2)
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Albert
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United States
1609 Posts |
Posted 09/09/2023 1:01 pm
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So is there any way of knowing how many came out of different mints?
Not perhaps for this specific emperor, but just from what I have read in some books, mint records may be sketchy at best or none at all, and / or they may have been cast in countless numbers.
Might have been 3.7 million strings.
How many on a string?
There is something different going on with the mintmarks or images.
Even when flipped, aligning the mintmark to the province isn't clear to me. Maybe if they were not worn so much? |
| | Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives |
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| French Indo China 1908 A - Underweight
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Albert
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United States
1609 Posts |
Posted 09/08/2023 02:13 am
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I experimented with magnet slides and they have their usefulness for me because I collect and detect fakes.
May not be practical for someone with only one or two dubious coins.
I tried six designs and settled for two that work the best.
Depending on the size and power of the magnets some unexpected results can appear.
Aluminum comes to mind.
And yes they can pinch making for bleeding fingers.
They can slam together and fracture easily.
I have a magnet separator made for that purpose from K&J Magnetics.
With some coins it can be curious as to what to make of the reactions.
Your own magnet slide can be too weak or too strong for the best results.
I posted pictures of some examples a couple years ago. |
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| French Indo China 1908 A - Underweight
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Albert
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1609 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2023 9:01 pm
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Amazon or K&J Magnetics.
N-52
Look for a plain disc in several diameters and thicknesses up to a 1/4 thick more or less.
Pinch them between a string, thread, tape or rubber band so they are free to swing.
Approach the magnets by face and compare how known silver and known non-silver make the magnets react.
Try silver, brass, copper-nickel, good silver and more.
Watch and see how the suspended magnets react.
Reverse the same and suspend the coin.
Approach with a magnet and see how the coin reacts.
You should see how silver acts one way compared to non-silver. |
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| French Indo China 1908 A - Underweight
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Albert
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United States
1609 Posts |
Posted 09/07/2023 7:42 pm
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Generally a typical copper-nickel coin has no or next to no attraction but does not react like good silver.
N-52 magnets are easily found online and come in suitable sizes for coin testing.
Round like 1/2 inch or more can be combined pinched on a thread to form a pair, or four suspended magnets.
I use a standard first test suspended pair of only a quarter inch diameter.
Experiment with a known good silver coin in what you do.
Compare the topic coin in the same way.
Larger silver coins give better results, especially with a home SG test. |
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