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| Roman Coin? Found In Garden
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Kushanshah
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 Posted 02/26/2023 9:03 pm
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One thing to check is the shape of the coin as seen from the side. Egyptian coins of this period tend have a beveled flan, meaning when seen from the side, a trapezoidal shape with the heads side being slightly smaller in diameter than the tails side.
Whether a modern copy or a genuinely ancient coin, it is most likely to have arrived in the UK as a souvenir of the British occupation of Egypt (1882-1956). Just the other day, I was shown a (genuine) small bronze coin found in Lincolnshire but minted in Cairo in the 14th century! I made a similar suggestion to that finder. Early coins from odd locations - Afghanistan, India, China - turn up in the UK from time to time but there is an interesting common thread of relatively recent colonial involvement.
A fun find either way! |
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| Henry III Silver Penny
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Kushanshah
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Posted 02/03/2023 1:53 pm
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It's a Christian cross which also conveniently served as a guide for halving and quartering.
The real "curse of Oak Island", unfortunately, is that every medieval coin with a cross on eBay these days has "Templar" in the auction title. Complete nonsense. |
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| Pale Gold Dinar Question
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Kushanshah
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Posted 02/02/2023 12:18 am
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| When I read your initial post, "Seljuq" was the first thing that came to mind. According to Steve Album's 'Checkist', some have a gold content as low as 10-15%. There is debased gold of other dynasties as well. Photos would would be helpful, particularly if they are clear enough to read the legends. Regarding price, gold spot is so high these days that common fine gold types from the same era can sometimes be had for not much more than bullion value. $325 may be 'optimistic' but it's really hard to say without a better idea of exactly what you've come across. |
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| Unsure Of This One - Probably Mamluk
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Kushanshah
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Posted 01/21/2023 07:05 am
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The good news is that you seem to be right by type. The bad news is that both the ruler's name and the date are off flan. On the reverse, the mint name Dimashq is legible inside the star. The date, written out in words in the margin, is completely missing.
On the obverse, the words in large letters across the center are al-sultan al-malik. Not much help. The name Hajji should be in the lower section but alas it is missing. According to Balog, the upper section should read al-Mansur and on a couple of the coins at Zeno it does clearly. On yours and some of the others at Zeno, it's something different but exactly what I'm not certain. None are clear. Perhaps al-Mansur preceded by another word?
Regarding 1st or 2nd reign, Balog lists them under the 2nd (p. 246, #532 dated 791 and #533 dated 792). The absolute determiner would be the date. Frankly none of the coins have a legible date. Also, it seems that the laqab al-Mansur was adopted for the 2nd reign.
[edit] On the Agora coin, the left image (obverse) is upside-down. On the op, the left image (reverse) should be rotated 120 degrees clockwise. |
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| Older Indian, ID Is Islam Shah, Suri Dynasty, (Ah 960), Paisa
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Kushanshah
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Posted 01/02/2023 5:48 pm
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| Dehli Sultans, Suris, Islam Shah, 1545-1552, AE paisa, Shahgarh (mint), AH [960?]. G/G D1019. Date should be 960 but apparently off flan. |
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| Older Indian, Possibly Delhi Sultanage
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Kushanshah
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Posted 01/02/2023 11:40 am
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| Dehli Sultans, Suris, Sher Shah, 1538-1545, AE paisa, Biana (mint), AH 951. G/G D884. |
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| Older Indian, Possibly Delhi Sultanage, # 2 Of 3
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Kushanshah
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Posted 01/02/2023 11:20 am
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| Yes, Jaunpur, but Ibrahim Shah, 1402-1440, billon tanka, G/G J6. Date difficult to read. Perhaps 822? |
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| Chach Bronze Coin Possibly Vanvan
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Kushanshah
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Posted 12/24/2022 3:52 pm
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| Shagalov and Kuznetsov categorize the Chach coins by Group, Period and Version. Group I are coins of the op type with obverse portrait left and tamgha reverse. They are believed to have been struck from c. 3rd to 6th century AD. The ruler's name on the earliest fine-style versions of the first period has been interpreted as "Wanwan" (wnwn). It has also been suggested that "Wanwan" may not a name but an epithet derived from a Sogdian word meaning "victorious". The Sogdian legend deteriorates as time goes on. Because of the degenerate reverse legend, I would classify your coin as no earlier than Period II. The illustrations in Sh&K are only a representative sampling of many varieties, which include a number of variants of the tamgha and degree of degeneration of the legend. #22, for example, has a different tamgha with the upper hook to the left and a pellet in the right lobe. I do not see a perfect match to your coin. "Sh&K Period I ('Wanwan' type), Group II" is about as specific as I think we can get. You can get some idea of the range of variation at Zeno: https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=913 |
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| Identifying Some Ancients
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Kushanshah
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Posted 12/14/2022 8:25 pm
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Yes, the first two are Anglo-Saxon Northumbria. The first is Aethelred II, moneyer Wendelberht:
+EDILRED REX // +VENDELBERHT
The second is archbishop Wigmund, either two obverses (not uncommon) or a flip-over multiple strike:
+VIGMVND IREP (both sides) |
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| Sources For Identifying Islamic/Indian Coins - Please?
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Kushanshah
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Posted 12/11/2022 03:50 am
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The only way to confidently attribute Islamic coins is to read them and in the case of these two, there just isn't enough to go on. Attempting to match a border decoration is going to lead nowhere, I'm afraid. Coins from from the Bengal Sultanate (modern Bangladesh) aren't likely to turn up thousands of miles to the west in the northern Persian Gulf region. As others have noted, the diameter in mm and weight in gms (to one or two decimals) would be a great help in narrowing down the field. A more accurate location would be helpful as well. Your best bet at the moment is dumb luck, someone just happening to recognize a coin they know well. Good luck!
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