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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/10/2025  10:19 pm

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. So much hangs on the appearance of the depression in the immediate area of the last "S" in STATES. I would very much love to see an angled view of that area showing the inside shoulder of the depression at and immediately below the "S."

I can understand more clearly what your referring to and your explanation.


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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/10/2025  7:39 pm

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. can you please add a picture of the coin edge-on to this thread? I'm wondering if those "tabs" at 5 and 11 o'clock protrude well above the rim of the coin elsewhere. Thx!

Best I could do for a pic lol don't wanna take it outta the flip.
But the tab 11 o'clock on the left in this pic u can see it ever so slightly protruding up and unevenness in the plastic of the flip is going up.
The right side 5oclock is not even protruding soooo ever slightly it is.
On the obverse pic u can see the zinc and sore slight flanging where the metal went bc of being restricted striking chamber and collar when struck .
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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/10/2025  7:32 pm
To answer all questions or things talked about.
It seems mostly all struck thru webbings like the nickel someone posted all the webbings r bascially perfectly centered. That's just how it is don't know how but I don't think it was assisted as you'd have to stop the press place it on etc. highly unlikely. I feel it just happened the webbing was on the Planchet etc.and we can't explain how it happens.

Besides that part
The struck thru area was contained inside the collar when it was struck and Planchet perfectly centered in striking chamber so that's why we don't see any difference on the diameter.
The only difference is the tabs at the rim they slightly protrude up and also the font has the zinc and super slight flanging going on which comes with metal flow having to go somewhere when the copper has no where to go and flow.
Now the struck thru area would not show zinc or any stress bc the press and putting an extreme amount of force on the metal and pushing it into the coin just like any other struck big or small you won't see zinc if at all unless slightly Uncentered or boradstruck / off center.

The top left tab is super slightly raised a half a mm. And the bottom tab is not really raised at all.
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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/09/2025  10:31 pm

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. I suppose I did not ask ALL the correct questions. If an actual struck through, as you stated, there would have to be quite a bit of displacement, I would think. What is the thickness and diameter? It looked like a retained struck through to me originally, that's why I would have thought it heavy.

The strike thru here on this coin is incuse not retained.
Before the coin was struck it weighed 2.5 grams the Planchet.
the area struck thru just gets smushed down when it is struck. That's why on the obverse you can see the slight zinc and flange.
Thickness and diameter of the coin is the same as a regular coin. The strike thru won't affect the weight of the coin. If retained it would.
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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/09/2025  9:41 pm

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. what's the weight?

The weight is 2.5 as it should be.
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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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Old Post Posted 03/09/2025  9:40 pm

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. Now that is a pretty cool cent. Worth getting slabbed? Thx for posting @gor!

Worth getting slabbed for sure. But it is raw in a 2x2. I won't grade coins till I'm willing to sell them.
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2021 Shield Cent Struck Thru Webbing
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/13/2025  4:22 pm
Improved Images...
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  8:27 pm

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. very nice find Gorham.

Thanks Dearborn glad I woke up from my nap that day and spotted the coin for what it was. Or someone would've bought it thinking they had a greased coin.
Now it's known for it truly is
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  8:26 pm

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. Hmm interesting--is the cent a little thinner than normal? (Thus potentially explaining the weak strike.)

It is regular thickness and it weighs 2.54 grams.
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  8:22 pm

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. And that's exactly what your slabbed image shows.( the fields at lower portions of LIBERTY and E.PLURIBUS UNUM)

The slabbed coin isn't mine. And I see no uneven weakness.
If comparing uneven weakness with liberty and epu that wont make sense bc epu isn't even close to liberty where it is weak and missing design so epu cannot be weak at all.
There is no uneven weakness on my coin 2021 d on the front and back.
I don't quite get your response to the error ref quote.
And yes the rim on the graded one is struck ever so slightly on the reverse above states. Also on mine it is like 5% there. Common occurrence on these type of errors that's just how it is. No clue why that's just how it is.

Anywho just by looking at the coin one can tell it is not a grease strike.
my mind does have a way different perspective at looking at things then others.

It's been confirmed by other reputable collectors in the hobby and from reputable known people in the coin hobby on FB that it is weakly struck.
Which I knew it was.
Reminds me of a 2011 finned rim shield cent I posted here and most were saying it was damage lol when it in fact wasn't (again which I knew it was an error) I got a great deal on the coin too.
That coin caused a stir lol. Last image is the weight of the 2011 penny.
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  7:29 pm

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Looks like a nice Greaser to me.


Characteristics visually don't add up to being a greaser.
Also the undefined complete design rim not being there is a big pick up point for that of a weakly struck coin.
I've added images of a ngc graded 2020 shield cent die adjustment strike.
Compare the similar design and no design elements that are showing due to the strike. Similar due to them being weakly struck and causing no design rim.
This coin fooled a few of the people who looked at this coin on the bay glad I was able to save it the 2021 d.

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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  7:10 pm

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. If you have the coin in hand can you tell us what the weight is?
Weak strike would still show defined Rim edge,this coin does looks like a strike thru.grease. nice one.

The weight is 2.54 grams.

A weak strike would not show a defined design rim bc the strike forms the design rim of the coin. So if the pressure of the strike is low no design rim will form like seen here and be considered weakly struck.
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2021 D Weak Strike Shield Cent
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Old Post Posted 02/07/2025  6:34 pm
Listed as a heavy struck thru grease coin.
Seeing the coin and the listing title I knew that this coin wasn't struck thru grease.
This penny is weakly struck. The undefined design rim is a characteristic of that of a weakly struck coin and a big pick up point.
Pretty sweet uncommon error found on modern Pennies. (2010 and up)
Great addition to the shield cent error collection.

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2021 Lincoln Shield Cent Die Event - Crack And Pre Cud Progression - Post Yours
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Old Post Posted 09/28/2024  8:49 pm

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. Can you share the link please?

It was sent in my email gonna have to check back up on it.
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2021 Lincoln Shield Cent Die Event - Crack And Pre Cud Progression - Post Yours
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Old Post Posted 09/28/2024  8:31 pm

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. Gigi, seems reasonable that you send images to JC Stevens at cuds-on-coins.com

I've got the same die break progression the very early state too.
I sent images off to JC in April 23,2023 back and he'd said he'd have it listed as an SKH.
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2023 P Shield Cent With Extended Bar On Shield
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Old Post Posted 07/13/2024  5:20 pm

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. Dp I send this to Wexler

You'd send it to wexler but it'd just be posted most likely as a UFO just like the 2017 is it's the same thing.
I wouldn't send it out I'd put it in a 2x2 for your collection. No reason to send it out since nothing really is going on with it.
All I think this is the working die was worked on in that area and the bar there just got extended down more. Or something
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2023 P Shield Cent With Extended Bar On Shield
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Old Post Posted 07/12/2024  05:52 am
That's a pretty sweet find we r seeing that anomaly on another year rather than the 2017 ufo.
I've got one of those 2017 ufos in my collection.
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2018 Shield Cent Defective Planchet (Rolling Induced Fissure, Ragged Clip, Or Fissure)
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Old Post Posted 06/19/2024  4:37 pm

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. I also find it funny this legitimate error sold for less than most of the PSD coins they were offering.


I thought the same lol a real error coin and then pmd damage coin is hundreds. I wanted to do a best offer of 5 or 10 bucks lol but I didn't want it to get scooped up by someone else. So I got it for a decent price still.
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2018 Shield Cent Defective Planchet (Rolling Induced Fissure, Ragged Clip, Or Fissure)
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Old Post Posted 06/18/2024  6:31 pm
Here's a great one.
2018 shield cent with a defective planchet (rolling induced fissure) seems to be most likely with how the beveled nature of the area is. Blakesly affect seen by god.
Can't really know which error actually happened since they are all very similar.
Found on an eBay sellers listings of 95% damage coins.




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