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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition!
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Old Post Posted 11/16/2022  03:13 am
New Zealand issued its coins for the 2nd year and a huge mintage of all 5 came out. Some 16 million coins for just 1.4 million people.


Halfcrown and Florin, both gVF


The other 3 with pre upgrade 6d, 3d and 1/- are both EF


The 6d was upgraded from VG to aEF in later 2021

Later in 1934 they stopped using British and Australian silver coins and by mid 1935 these had been banned.

NZ coins dated 1933 were actually phased in between Nov 1933 (Halfcrowns) and May 1934 (6d) and thus these 1934 dated coins mostly emerged from Nov 1934 and into 1935.

Usage of Bronze coins penny and less was still British with some Australian Pennies and Halfpence until 1940.

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Old Post Posted 11/16/2022  02:52 am
Australia 1934 coins




Shilling, Florin and Penny, all VF or gVF.


Close up of that nice Florin!
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2022  5:11 pm
Thanks Trigg and J1M - those kopeks are great!

More 1935 - now the UK


The Jubilee Crown, the Art Deco design was WAY! ahead of its time. I really like it - there is something really futuristic about the Dragon and the eagle eyed will notice the 70 year old king is St George.
With 712k minted, its quite common and this AU piece cost me barely the melt value.


Another nice halfcrown (AU original)


Florin - still better than a lot from this era, this design wore very quickly.


Decent shilling (AU), issues of these coins were moderate around 5 - 10 million of each coin per year, now the colonies did not need them anymore - but mintages of later KGV silver coins pales next to the mid 8 figure mintages of most of the KGVI ones.


Worn Irish penny - now these coins are marked "Irish Free State" in Gaelic as in 1935 Ireland was a Dominion in the British Empire.

From 1934 backwards, the coins become less common for me and you will begin to see a few more "seasoned" coins.


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Old Post Posted 11/15/2022  2:02 pm
Palestine also issued many of its coins in 1935 and its an easier year for the silver pair at least!


50 mils, nice but stained


100 mils, also nice


10 mils - holes in coins here is unexplained, maybe some Bedouins did not have pockets in their gowns, but the cheaper 1 and 2 mil coins had no holes.

Whilst we are in the Middle East.


Turkiye 25 Kurus/ 1,000 Para - this was Year 1 of a new Turkish coinage designed by Percy Metcalfe (You have already seen my Lira and Kuru and Trigg's 10 kurus).

This was a small silver coin and my only one to feature Ataturk when he was still alive. These modern coins topped off what was his campaign of turning the Medieval Ottoman empire into a modern Republic. As we head back you will see Ottoman coins get more "Arabic" looking.
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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition!
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2022  1:48 pm
Thanks people. It seems the 3d was a hit, but no comments on the Melbourne Florin, I consider it much more of a prize.

J1M That Kopek collection was amazing, I managed to pick out types back to the early 1700s one of Peter the Great. Can't date that wire money though - would they go back to say Ivan III the Great?

1935 was a bumper year for Pacific coins. New Guinea issued 3!


This silver shilling we have seen and it came out in big numbers

But also these 2.


Sixpence


Threepence

These 2 were smaller and not as prestigious as the shillings. A bronze penny joined the line up the next year with further shillings, but no more of these 3d and 6d were minted until the early mid 40s.

Fiji also issued 4 of its 5 new coins in 1935 - all are more scarce than 1934 dated coins.


The penny, like New Guinea, these lower value coins were holed so non clothes wearing natives could string them up. But higher coins in Fiji dispensed with holes.


Shilling


Florin

There was also a sixpence, but I don't have one.

More to come, 1935 is one of my biggest years!
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2022  12:38 am
1935 was a fascinating year in Australia too. Its rarest florin came out (Non circulation one), but this coin was not the standard florin.

It was this Victoria/Melbourne centenary coin - although dated 1934/35, it was released in Feb/Mar 1935 making it a 1935 coin in my book.


The design featured a rider on horseback with streamers flying. The coin had 75k minted and was sold at 3/- each (a 50%) mark up and even distributed through department stores. Being the late depression, it was a colossal flop and of the 75k minted, 21k were melted back down, leaving just 54,000. The coins today are scarce and my one in gEF condition is about average as most of them were souvenired. Figure $500+ for this coin.

The coin was also the only Australian one to have the Kruger Grey portrait of KGV, this appeared on the NZ, Fiji, Mauritius, Seychelles coins and Canadian $1 coins of 1935 and 1936.


A nice shilling (VF) and average 3d and Penny.


A worn 1935 Standard Florin, that I got for helping my stamp club assess some coin lots for their auction (I ended up buying most of them).

I don't have the 6d or halfpenny.
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Old Post Posted 11/15/2022  12:27 am
Have a meeting tonight and give you all a suprise.

1935 - New Zealands Rarest coin besides the Waitangi crown


The threepence had only 40,800 minted and is the hardest coin to find in circulation. This coin is gFine and even in this state is mid 3 figures.

A very rare Waitangi Crown, just 1128 minted.


I know its rule bending, but its so beautiful

See my thread on NZ predecimal coins to learn about these amazing coins.


The other 4 coins of 1935 are all scarce as it was a year where not many more coins were needed after a glut of coins in 1933 and 1934 in the first 2 years and there would be bitsy mintages through to 1940. These 2 are VF - gVF and quite scarce, top grade they are priceless.


A good VF shilling (Nice lustre)

My sixpence is very worn and I won't show it.

Next for NZ we get 2 common years in a row and some really nice pieces and then its bye bye NZ.
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Yet Another Forum Game - Numismatic Go Fish!
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  11:15 pm
I made a mistake by one point.
But I am generally sick of you and your constant bullying and cadging of me, so I am disqualifying you and banning you from my competitions. My competition - my rules.

I just had a tooth out today, so in no mood for games and pedantry.

Game over!

Triggersmob wins
BD251 - 1 point (Should have said go fish)
J1M and J BUck 2 points each
Dorado - 0 points for being a general nuisance.

And Dorado is BANNED from all my further contests. I would also prefer if he never interacts with me again.
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  8:54 pm
Nice group - NumisRob

Forgot I haven't shown my Brit coins yet.


Half Crown - an average example


Florin - a stunning example!


Shilling - dull but very detailed example


Threepence, another nice example
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  12:03 pm
Fiji had 2 pennies in 1936, one was an Edward VIII coin



These are quite cheap and affordable for most. Along with the New Guinea penny, there is also an African (West or Eastern) holed penny coin as well. I think some Indian state also issued a E8 coin.


The main penny issued was a KGV one with 240k issued next to 120k of the E8 one.

The other Fijian coins were all KGV. There was a 6d, 1/- and Florin. I have the 1/- and Florin but no 6d.



Florin

And that is my 1936 selections.
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Yet Another Forum Game - Numismatic Go Fish!
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  09:06 am
16 points there 5 x 3 points +1 point (1929)

Maximum of 3 points per type, multiple coins don't add to the total and highest value piece played only - so 1 x 3 point coin or 1 x 1 point coin per type.
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  04:20 am
Australia in 1936 also issued coins in the name of King George V only. These are the old designs from Blakemore which dated back to 1910 (Silver) and Bronze (1911). The coins of this year are the easiest to get of the whole KGV series and F - VF examples like these are easy to get for most collectors.



I have all of the coins except a halfpenny. My florin is fairly nice, but not on the level of some we have seen today!

New Guinea actually issued a coin in the name of King Edward VIII, although it was a penny and just showed his cypher rather than a portrait.



A one shilling coin was also issued for New Guinea, but I don't have this coin and it was in the name of King George V.
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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition!
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Old Post Posted 11/14/2022  12:43 am
Machinmachinman - That Florin - I mean wow!!!

New Zealand in 1936 had coins only of the old king - George V (Everybody, its going to be him for the next 26 days).



The 3d and 6d are reasonably common, but the Florin is quite scarce especially in high grade and unbelievably so in UNC/AU.

The coin you see in my photograph is a VF one worth around $125 - 200 or so. An UNC is worth $10,000! Even a standard G - VG one is a $30 coin, when most other dates are around BV to $10.

The 6d is also less common and I upgraded mine a while ago to UNC!



These two came in a big lot of old sixpences, AU and UNC. Sometimes the bargains come unexpectedly.

We only have 3 more years left of New Zealand and then its Australia and UK for us.

However once we hit 1881, NZ will spring back to life!
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Yet Another Forum Game - Numismatic Go Fish!
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  9:31 pm
Nope you have 3 points.
You can only get a maximum of 3 points per type - but I assume being a coin collecting site, people should know that.

Standings

Triggersmob - 17 points
BD251 - 1 point
Dorado - 3 points
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  6:47 pm
Colonial coins of 1937

To go with NumisRob's Florin


Southern Rhodesia Half Crown


Fijian 1937 Shilling (1937 - 1941 Fijian coins other than pennies are all very scarce).

You will notice to the word "King" is to the left of the King's portrait on these coins, the authorities did not like the balance and moved it to the right in 1938. Also these colonial coins had a crowned portrait of the king, rather than the bareheaded one on British and so called "White" colonies and countries like NZ, Aus, South Africa and Canada.


Penny of 1937 (One side only)

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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  12:07 pm
More British 1937 coins


Coronation Crown - large coin which was originally for Edward VIII's coronation. Mine is quite worn (gVF).


Group with the źd, 3d and 6d with new designs of Wren and the shield on 3d and the Cypher on 6d. The last replaced more pleasing floral designs. The farthing was improvement on an 1890s portrait of Britannia which looked dated by the mid deco era 1930s.


Medallet made of coronation of KE8, mangled and never used. Made out of cheap spelter or white metal.
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  09:09 am
1937 world coins


South Africa Sixpence


And a very worn threepence


Ceylon Half cent


Palestine 10 mils
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  04:37 am
1937 UK coins including Proofs


Proof Half Crown


Proof shilling - English design (Similar to 1927 - 1936 Design)


Proof shilling - Scottish design


Florin - another design by Kruger Grey.

Once we head back to 1936, we move back to George V and different designs for these coins.
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An Introduction To New Zealand Decimal Coins 1967 - 2020
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  03:42 am
Yes all Proof $1 coins from 1977 onwards and $5 from 1991 onwards are Sterling silver (But not the 1990 $5 Anzac coin). Also the Proof $1 of the 1974 Games coin is silver too.

However the "Uncirculated" grade are NOT silver, but Cupronickel. These came in plastic square cases, plastic sets and later cardboard sets and holders. Same with the Polished Specimen coins of 1965, 1967 to 1976 and all Proof coins 1c to 50c up to 1990 (Except the 150th anniversary proof set of 1990) and Proof set coins 5c to $2 from 1991 are also not Silver.
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Yet Another Forum Game - Numismatic Go Fish!
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Old Post Posted 11/13/2022  03:37 am
5 more points to Triggersmob which gives him 17
1 point to BD251
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