Quote: I started collecting in the late 1960's and had many of the old Whitman coin albums, but I don't recall ever running across Whitman-branded 2x2 holders.
Thanks hokiefan, I haven't been collecting for quite that long (early 80's) but I don't recall seeing one of these 2x2's either.
I just purchased this coin and don't have it in hand yet. I paid $15 for it and am anxious to see what is going on with that reverse (split after strike?). The fissure on obverse is pretty cool by itself. Anyways, I'll post a separate thread when I can get the photos taken. My question is about the 2x2 and if this indicates an old flip? I don't remember seeing Whitman flips stamped with the logo like this (reverse bottom left).
Thanks Mike and everyone else for your help with this one. It does look like an interesting sequence of events took place here to create this effect. I picked this coin up because the collar clash was so dramatic and interesting.
P55- I use a piece of card stock with a notch cut out to hold coins while photographing angles like this. That is what you're seeing in that 4th photo. I really like this photo btw because at a glance, it looks like two edges or a 3D edge is popping out on the face of this coin.
Not sure on this one so I'm open to opinions. First it appears that the grooves on the obverse face are showing metal that has been "moved" possibly indicating PSD. Perhaps this scraping occured immediately after the strike while the die was retracting? There is distortion or smearing of the devices on the obverse especially seen on IGWT. This could be related to the MAD/Collar issue but am not sure how a collar clash would cause this. The coin has that "cleaned" look with fine scratches on both sides which I'm assuming is unrelated to the error.
They are not called "Copper Wash" or "Sintered Planchet" errors anymore. Like the previous reply mentioned, these are "Improperly Annealed" planchet errors.
Quote: As I state before, this it is a very rare event in the coins production.
Thanks Silviosi, Mike does mention these errors as being quite rare in that article I linked to. It seems that these errors get lumped in with the more common pre-strike rim burrs so most people don't know the difference and so there is probably not the market for them that there otherwise might be. I would think an unusual one like this would be even more rare. Thanks again for orginally posting that article last month. It informed me of these errors and I was able to make this purchase, confident that it was an unusual error. Thanks for the photo compliment too! I was happy to see that Mike used these photos in the Coin World article.