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captainkurt's Last 20 Posts
| 1942-P Jefferson Nickel: Proof Or Business Full Steps?
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captainkurt
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 Posted 03/24/2025 9:15 pm
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I spent some time looking at PCGS photos. I couldn't see many (if any) business strikes with the amount of detail your coin shows in the areas you mentioned (side steps/arch).
I also did not see any business strike coins with as much detail in the railings on the roofs. The coin is also free from contact marks and seems to only have the blemish under the bust.
This and the hammer strike has me leaning toward proof. Either way it looks like a minimum of a 66FS. If it is a business strike, chances are it could be worth twice as much as a proof.
It is a spectacular example!
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| 1964 D BU Jefferson Nickel
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/23/2025 11:02 am
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Thanx for the comments everyone. I too am at MS64 on this one. Had no hopes of FS, lol. I can't drop $500-$1500 on a modern coin!
I have been hyper focused on the details in Monticello for these 60's coins. On the 1964 D there are nice coins in MS66 but the details on the column/stair area are flat and smooth.
I knew the 60's Denver Jefferson's were going to be a challenge, but wow. I am going to have to up my budget substantially. $20 a coin is just not cutting it.
Gathering great coins from 1938 to 1962 was easy but I have hit a wall. This is going to be a fun challenge that will take a ton of patience.
I worry about the after market on modern Jefferson's. They demand significant premiums but I worry how hard it would be to resell. I already have a full set+ of choice coins to put back in the market and I'm only a year into this project! I guess I'm gonna find out |
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| United States Proof Sets
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/22/2025 4:53 pm
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'Worth' and what people would actually pay are very different.
Modern proofs would have to grade 70 to be 'worth' anything but grading expenses would probably still be higher than what it would sell for after the added selling expenses on top of grading expenses.
Looks like 80's top pop PR70 DCAM nickels are selling (not asking) for an average of $50.
Not much of a margin even if you could perfectly cherry pick your sets for those elusive 'perfect' coins and always get 'top' sales prices.
If it were easy, everyone would do it! |
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| 1964 D BU Jefferson Nickel
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/22/2025 4:20 pm
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Hey everyone,
Here is another one that I hope will fit in the Choice+ Set I am working on. It's a really tough year/mint coin with PCGS only grading around 300 in MS66 or better. They have less than 100 in FS.
Let me know what you think! Thanx
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| 1945-S Silver Nickel For Grading
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/22/2025 3:56 pm
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Phots are getting better but it looks like you are using one light source. I find that if I have two I can get better contrast. I use indirect natural light from a window and then have a lamp on the opposing side of the coin. The two angles can really show the surface details. Sometimes too well showing every little defect.
I'll post a 64d Jefferson in another thread and you will clearly see the yellow light from the lamp from the left and the white natural light from the right. Try not to wash out the coin with the natural light. Less reflection and let the flaws in the coin show.
The goal is an accurate assessment, not inflated grades due to photo tricks. |
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| 1971 D Nickel.how Did Ncg Grade It?
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/20/2025 10:02 pm
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The second set of photos look better. I am finding that grading modern Jefferson's is very subjective from year to year. I am working on the 60's and 70's now and there seems to be much more tolerance for die related issues and bag marks for these decades.
Your obverse strike quality is really strong. The reverse looks really good too strike wise. Based on the new photos you posted I would be happy with the MS65. It's a really nice example for a seventies Jefferson.
FS - well, I'm not surprised NGC gave it. The strike is so strong that they forgave the bag marks. I'm just a purest and would try and find one without them. That being said, the price would be much higher than $19!!! Probably double or higher without the bag marks on the stairs.
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| 1971 D Nickel.how Did Ncg Grade It?
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/20/2025 7:15 pm
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Possible the coin degraded in the holder. Those splatters are unfortunate and if on the coin and developed after grading then it's hard to say if NGC got the grade right.
I could see NGC still giving this an FS with what's under the third column. There is another mark under the first column too.
I say that NGC gave this an MS65 5 FS but I would not except it as an FS coin. With the damage now in condition I would also send this coin back as it is detailed IMO.
I would bet PCGS would give this coin an MS64 without the splatters and that's where I'm at. No FS. |
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| 1943 War Nickel For Appraisal
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/17/2025 9:43 pm
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From my experience 1943 D Jeffersons have really nice stairs. Crisp and clean. All the other details on Monticello seem a bit mushy.
Look at the detail across the rooflines of this reverse in comparison. The triangle is pronounced and the railings on both sides have detail.
here is my 43 D for comparison. Very mushy details.
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| 1943 War Nickel For Appraisal
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/17/2025 5:17 pm
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Strange how it can have a worn/weak strike all around a set of full steps
This seems to happen a lot with the 1943 D. Full Steps seem to be readily available for this year/mint. However, finding a reverse strike with detail on the roof tops is impossible.
I wonder if they retooled the stairs on the die?
Im at MS63FS with a possible 6FS |
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| 1964 PCGS Jefferson Nickel
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/17/2025 5:06 pm
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Not surprised at the responses. 1964 P was a rough year for Jeffersons. The chatter on the jaw and cheek bone are seen on quite a few of the PCGS photo grade coins in MS65. It may have been die related.
It really comes down to strike quality. Finding detailed hair on the obverse and any stairs or detail on the reverse is relatively difficult. PCGS only has about 200 MS66's and less than 200 FS examples for the 1964 P.
Glad I didn't spend much on this one! Anything better on Ebay right now was 5x-10x the price I paid. Still, this one falls a bit short in the Choice+ set I am building.
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| 1940-D Jefferson Nickel To Grade My Picture Taking
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/15/2025 5:12 pm
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The photos are a little harsh with the lighting to see detailed surfaces. Looks like it has some circulation wear so your assumption of AU sounds about right. FS is only given to MS coins I think.
But you also have a few contact marks breaking up the stairs so for me, I would not call it FS. Some would ask for clear close ups of the stairs to be sure. |
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| 1964 PCGS Jefferson Nickel
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/15/2025 4:04 pm
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So, there probably isn't much interest in this year/mint Jefferson. However, some of the 1960's Jeffersons are conditional rarities. This particular year/mint has poor reverse detail in the majority of examples.
I am having a really hard time finding decent examples of a few 1960's Jeffersons in the budget I am willing to fork over.
Alll opinions, grading, or comments welcomed! Grading reveal will be Sunday night.
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| 1941 Washington Quarter For Grading.
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/15/2025 3:42 pm
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I have a really hard time grading toned coins. Especially from photos. The field hits to right of Washington look significant but other than that I don't see much of anything holding this back. Toning could be hiding something.
Premiums put on coins with toning are not my cup of tea. That being said this is a beautiful coin.
I think the eye appeal takes this close to the Gem category. I'm not in the slider camp.
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| For Grading - 1950 S Washington Quarter
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/12/2025 07:31 am
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| Nooo! Can't win them all I guess. Man, between this one and the other I would have had the grades swapped. Seems like they went all technical on this one but the other they threw strike quality out the window. |
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| What Source Do Some Of You Use To Value Your Coins?
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captainkurt
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Posted 03/09/2025 8:24 pm
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@captainkurt, the below is an interesting take, care to expand on this?
When I am looking at a particular coin there are many variables. First I'm trying to find the best example that fits my desires. By the time I find one that meets the qualities I am looking for I'm usually a bit over the budget I want to be at.
So, if I also find in my research that realized auction price history supports that I am pushing my budget I will pass on the coin and wait for another opportunity in the future.
I tend to use realized auction pricing and quality caparison to be my final check to confirm that my grading, judge of eye appeal, or perceived scarcity matches what the current market is exhibiting. This process ends up making me pass on more coins then I actually purchase.
I'm not trying to get the best 'deal.' I'm trying to purchase the best quality in my price range for the particular set I am working on. Always pushing the quality. |
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