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Constantius II Damaged Mint Mark Help

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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
bobbyhelmet- Thanks for the input! I actually can not detect a T after the N, but the obverse legend very clearly ends in AVG. So am I not correct in assuming that this is constantius II?
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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
An ending of "AVG" could be Constantius II or Constans. It all will depend on what if anything is after the "CONSTAN"

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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Your correct Archraz - it is Constantius II.

DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG obverse - 99% certain

Pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust - 99% certain

Unfortunately we still have about 1400 coins and 15 mints to choose from! Size should allow us to take a few more out though.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
bobbyhelmet- Ah, good to know that I was right regarding emperor. It is about 12mm in diameter. Do the couple of discernable letters not help to narrow it down? After all, that M is very clear, and obviously part of the mint mark rather than the workshop mark.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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An ending of "AVG" could be Constantius II or Constans


I thought this too but I can only find 'CONSTA-NS' breaks for Constans
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 Posted 10/10/2011  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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Do the couple of discernable letters not help to narrow it down?


At present no - too many possibilities sadly, none of these mintmarks start with a 'H' so that must be wrong, quite a few have 'M' near the middle.

12mm is very small!, you sure its not 17?
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 Posted 10/10/2011  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
Any Constans FH will be 20mm or more since he died before they got that small. I can not read the mintmark but it is 100% Constantius II. You will rarely go wrong assuming a FH is not Constans. They are not at all common.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I think if you cleaned it up a bit you can attribute it but so far I cant make anything out of the reverse picture.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
bobbyhelmet- Oh, sorry, that was a typo. I meant 17mm. part of the problem with the image of the reverse is that it did not turn out well in the scan. It looks much better in hand. But at least the Mint mark is somewhat clear (almost clearer than in hand) in my images.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
OK - If we accept that the mintmark def has an M in it we are down to about 125 possible coins. I also think you have nothing in the left field on the reverse so we are prob down to about 50 coins.

The basic mintmark combinations we are looking for are as follows:

RMT star or R.M.T. - Rome
ASISM - Siscia
SMTSA - Thessalonica
SMHA - Heraclea
SMKA - Cyzicus
SMNA - Nicomedia

Workshops in bold - I'll look again in a bit as I'm becoming blind to it - maybe a fresh set of eyes could help.

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 Posted 10/10/2011  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
bobbyhelmet- Actually there is an "M" in the field above the guy being stabbed and to the left of the stabber. As, I said, there is a world of difference between the scan and the coin when in hand. The odd, uneven coloring and some peeling of the surfaces have yielded very nebulous scans from my old printer/scanner.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
OK - now down to the following:

SMTSA - Thessalonica
SMHA - Heraclea
SMNA - Nicomedia
ALEA - Alexandria
ANA - Antioch

I've discounted Sirmium and Siscia as the M in their mintmarks would be on the extreme right character wise.

'H', 'M' and 'N' can look very similar on these coins. I think you may have lost the first 'S' and what you thought was a 'H' is infact the 'M' of 'SM'.

This is about as far as I can go to be honest - maybe in hand you can cut it down further.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
bobbyhelmet- Great! Thanks for all of the help. I greatly appreciate it! I think that the last two can be stricken from the list, and Thessalonica can be as well. So it is either Heraclea or Nicomedia.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
a hundred of these ID puzzlers are much more fun IMHO than a perfect $200 coin that takes 2 minutes to ID
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 Posted 10/10/2011  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
FYI, RIC wise it would be Nicomedia 110 or Heraclea 93 / 96
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