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I do not remember ever seeing a Buffalo in a slab where the entire coin has been chemically etched but at least NGC and ANACS will slab Nic-A-Dated Buffaloes. Most are not worth submitting but there are some 1916 DDOs and 1918/7Ds out there with FR2/AG3 Details grades. Those are probably the only two worth submitting as even a treated 1913S TII would only have a value roughly equal to the slabbing fee.
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Well I figure if I can acid date the coin back to EF-details there are a few issues I feel it would be worth it to get slabbed if I'm trying to sell them. Slabbed coins generally bring higher premiums, I figure not many people would believe a listing that said an acid dated coin met ef details standards. I have found that etching the entire surface of a coin can bring out all the details that the coin was originally struck with. I havent tried it on buffalos yet, but on other issues it works wonders sometimes.
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I have found that etching the entire surface of a coin can bring out all the details that the coin was originally struck with Sure would like to see some examples of that if possible. |
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Acid brings up a date on Buffalo nickels by wearing down the entire coin. As the date is higher than the adjacent fields, acid can usually encourage it (or at least a partial of it) to pop out. I think what some of us are wondering is, how is it that wearing down an entire coin can result in a higher grade? |
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Because it brings out more details on the surface of the coin. If you look at this 1895 nickel I have up in the grading section, the coin appears to be ef details but it originaly was a fr2 dateless coin. https://goccf.com/t/100347 |
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Because it brings out more details on the surface of the coin. If you look at this 1895 nickel I have up in the grading section, the coin appears to be ef details but it originaly was a fr2 dateless coin. I looked at the picture you provided. I would like to have seen what it looked like origionaly, but I agree if it was an FR-2, you've brought a lot of details out. However, there is NO way any TPG would grade this EF, it looks horrible. No collector would pay any money for it unless it was a key date, and then they'd pay probably FR-2 money for it, which is where we started. Like I said, there is no reason to ever treat any coin unless its just as a personal curiosity that you never intend to sell |
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Well I'm fairly certain someone will pay more than the 10 cents it cost me to buy it as a dateless f2 v-nickel. If one follows the 10% rule for acid date coins than this coin would be worth $5 or so in EF details. Ill post some before an after pictures the next time I get some dateless vnicks.
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If one follows the 10% rule for acid date coins than this coin would be worth $5 or so in EF details The 10% rule is off the G-4 price, so no, someone would not pay you $5 for that coin. Since its not a key date, if I got that piece through roll searching or whatever I would throw it back in. The "rule" isn't even so much of a rule, its more like...is this peice worth anything at all?...not really...I'll give you slightly over face for it. Like I mentioned in a previous post, I saw an acid dated 1914 - D buffalo sell for $4. That coin is MUCH rarer than yours had been treated less, and had better eye appeal. The coin pictured would be worth $.05...maybe you'll get your $.10 back from someone, that's it. Edited by hesgut
10/15/2011 7:39 pm
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I sold an acid dated 1914d last month for 19.99 plus shipping and have another up on ebay right now that is going for 7.99 plus shipping with more than 2 days left. You would be suprised what people will pay for acid dated coins. |
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Well, no, I am never surprised what SOME people actually pay for coins, but they don't know they are overpaying. Still, a 14-D in G-4 is about $80, so getting $20 for it acid dated is nothing to write home about.....and it happens to be around it's FR-2 price, if not below it. btw, you did mention in the listing that the coin was acid dated, right? Some people can't tell. Maybe I'll buy up all the acid dated coins from my guy who is selling them for about 10% of G-4 or less, then resell on ebay and allow people to rip themselves off. I personally think they're worthless. |
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not to take sides or cause any conflict, but XG DOES state when a coin has been date restored. I've seen some of his listings and all potential buyers know perfectly well what they're getting. I personally restore dates frequently and without hesitation, but only to satisfy my own personal curiosity (or the occasional blank spot in my folder). but I do, with a few rare exceptions, think that restored dates are nearly worthless. again, there are exceptions, but are very few and far between.
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As Jedichef stated I always state in my listings whether or not a coin has been restored using acid or not. I to don't use acid dated coins in my own personal collection but other people seem to like them since they are cheap genuine fillers. Perhaps ill list on ebay a fully restored v-nick as a test case to see what kind of money it would bring in. |
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I was simply speculating on whether or not they were listed as acid dated....not accusing. Putting a V-nick with full acid treatment up. I guess such a test is worthwhile. Maybe someone will buy it. Nobody that knows what they're talking about would, I guarantee you that. If you did a poll on this site and asked if anyone would want such a nickel (non-key date) at all for any reasonable numismatic price I believe it would be a land slide.
I'm sure you're an honest seller and know you offer full disclose on your auctions, but I just find the practice of burning nickels to death for the purpose of bringing out details to sell them at higher prices than their FR-2 dateless versions to be sketchy.
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Well the experiment is up and running, I have up on ebay now a 1893 that looks like it has vf or xf details listed at a $4.50 starting price. Its not nearly as good looking as the 1895 I posted in the grading section earlier. http://www.ebay.com/itm/25091250428....m1555.l2649I have a feeling that a good portion of the people that buy acid dated coins are younger collectors or people that cant afford to purchase regular untreated examples. I remeber a while back there was a fellow here on ccf that was looking for an 1885 nickel for under $20 and no one could find an example that cheap acid dated or otherwise. |
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Posted 10/14/2011 11:56 am
