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All Forums Category: World Coins and Currency Forums Forum: Ancient, Greek, Roman, and Medieval Coins

Parion In Mysia Hemidrachm--Fake?

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bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 3:34 pm There are a lot of little things that would put me off this coin. It looks coated but that's hard to be certain of in a picture, the surface is not what I would expect from crystallisation and as already pointed out it does not look struck. Even the colour of it looks 'off'. I don't know much about Greek coins and I'm not a style expert so this coin would fool me in that department, to my eye it looks OK. Its sad that a 10000+ feedback seller of coins would pass this on, he surely knows its no good? I also think its sad that somebody parted with $85 of their 'hard earned' for it, they too should know better or try harder to keep their hands in their pockets. Report this Post to the Staff
tokenmast Pillar of the Community United States 648 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 4:34 pm Eye balls, and snakes, Not much of My avatar left. She's probably debased but not washed ! Fake. Silver wash on a silver coin? Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 5:06 pm Yeah, there is so much wrong with this one it's hard to take it all in. Report this Post to the Staff
Gil-galad Pillar of the Community United States 2044 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 5:17 pm I was just looking through the seller's listings. There are reproductions there as well. Report this Post to the Staff
Doucet Pillar of the Community United States 1315 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 5:56 pm It's always good to compare coins that are in question. I'm not an expert but by comparison I think these four are authentic. Photos from Vcoins. I think here you can see what is meant by fabric. Also look at the eyes of these Gorgons, all have a 'look' in the eyes that fakes just don't seem to be able to duplicate. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 6:03 pm Very nice, the last one is scary with the teeth, the mouth looks like a bat with spread wings. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 6:03 pm Thanks Doucet for posting comparison pics! They really show how weak the Gorgon in the ebay coin is, even compared to worn examples. Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 6:11 pm Here is the one I have in my collection. Definitely a different texture and design. -Kurt Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 7:52 pm That's a nice one Kurt! There is something unmistakable about a struck coin. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 10:19 pm Quote: I was just looking through the seller's listings. There are reproductions there as well. Do people like to buy crap from sellers like this? I think I must be doing it wrong, this seller is doing all of the things I detest when choosing who to buy from! Practically everything is described as 'rare' when its all not, at all, by anyone's standards. He is selling copies alongside the real thing and a lot of the ancients have been harshly cleaned and repatinated! Don't even get me started about dropping the word 'Christian' into anything remotely near Constantine (who incidentally was far from 'Christian' for the vast majority of his life) in date! All of his descriptions are cut-and-paste from Wiki, and: Quote: Please include 5 dollars and a short request with your payment if you would like a COA What! He's not a museum or an expert, its worthless! I can understand sending an 'information sheet' or a receipt out for the buyer to refer to or if its a gift but to charge $5 is shocking! He grades the coins - yeah, useful, its not the 1960s anymore, we have full colour digital pictures now but doesn't even attempt to add a reference number to the coins. The worst thing is he is on almost 11k feedback! AGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! ...and relax, deep breaths, think about a mountain stream, my favourite item title has to be this though: Quote: Julius Caesar original silver reproduction Denarius(RARE) 'original reproduction (RARE)' is that opposed to the common reproduction of a reproduction? I doubt he knows what an 'oxymoron' is, I cant help him with the 'oxy' but if he looks in the mirror he'll be half way there. EDIT - just read this back, I may have over-reacted slightly Edited by bobbyhelmet 01/25/2012 10:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 10:30 pm Quote: 'original reproduction (RARE)' is that opposed to the common reproduction of a reproduction? Exactly--I think all the bluster about "authenticity" when it's simply a con--even the real coins are misrepresented. I had to stop looking so I wouldn't grind down my teeth. Report this Post to the Staff
Gil-galad Pillar of the Community United States 2044 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 10:32 pm Take a deep breath, relax and then think about good coins, and from other sellers. I haven't and won't ever buy from that seller. I've seen that seller's listings before. Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 01/25/2012 11:35 pm Quote: Please include 5 dollars and a short request with your payment if you would like a COA I hate it when I read listings with this kind of thing. If it's free, then you got nothing to lose, no problem IMO. But $5 for a piece of paper with a signature on it? Come on! Quote: I doubt he knows what an 'oxymoron' is, I cant help him with the 'oxy' but if he looks in the mirror he'll be half way there. This joke made me lol. I don't think I've heard it before. Thanks for the laugh bobby! That sure describes what he is and seller's like him are. Edited by VisigothKing 01/25/2012 11:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 01/26/2012 01:17 am Quote: But $5 for a piece of paper with a signature on it? Come on! For no charge at all, I'll scribble out a certificate stating the OP coin is fake--guaranteed! Report this Post to the Staff
Gil-galad Pillar of the Community United States 2044 Posts	Posted 01/26/2012 06:24 am Too bad it doesn't seem to be against the law to sell fake Ancient coins. Although, I think it's the law here in the US that US coins be stamped with COPY if it's not real. It should be illegal to sell fake ancient coins, for real. Of course that wouldn't stop a lot of them from doing it but at least if it was illegal someone could report the seller. Report this Post to the Staff
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