Ebay Feedback System..

Im dealing with a situation from my last run of auctions, seller bought the coin,, I never heard from him,, I sent 3 emails, no response, I filed upaid Item, no response to the claim.

This buyer has 2 feedback,, If I neg Him does it affect Him ? More than likely not ,, If he negs me does it affect me ,, absolutely.

I started worrying about this auction the moment the buyer with 2 feedback bid on it !!

without any buying experiance the odds of this buyer acting irrationally triples,,

I will not leave any feedback once ebay refunds my fee's.

Metalman

(QUOTE from Steve G)
Using auctions just to create pos feedback is against ebay rules, IF reported, AND ebay agrees, they will shut down the auctions. Power seller status requires a certain dollar amount (around $1000.00 I think) sold per month. Not just feedback.

So this is legal or illigal to do ?

How many here have used this method or have purchased $.01 cent items ?


What I was refering about was sellers like these.


If you check this persons feedback you will see where some bidders have actually bought this penny item more than once. So why would anyone purchase this advice more than once if it weren't for feeback ?
I suppose it is a way they use this method to overide the negatives they may receive also. Follow the feedbacks of some of the others that bought more than one and it goes on and on to others using it.


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At that rate below it would be 10.53 for a 110 positive feedback score.
(Below is a quote from the auction page)
As an experiment, I was able to get a feedback rating of 11 for $1.53 in a couple of evenings playing around. I just browsed through the search results and found cheap items I could buy for 1 penny to 1 dollar.

texasmick,
Have bobby show you how to save money by hoasting your pictures here, rather than ebay. I think you will save a lot with all the pics in your auctions.
Ty

I value my feedback very much. If I'm not satisfied with the overall experience, I will just leave no feedback at all and ignore the sellers request for me to do so. I think if I leave a negative feedback, they will do the same to me. After looking at their neg. feedback, I know its going to happen to me.

One experience I had:
I bought a mystery lot from a man trying to sell off a collection. He allowed the buyers to request certain type coins so we could get what we are looking for. He said I would receive 10 items or value. He sent me like 7 or 8 coins, the coins I was looking for, and a few COUPONS. I was slightly offended, but not unhappy since I got the coins I needed and the value of these coins were worth more than my bid.
I emailed him, "Hey, I'm happy with what I got, but why didn't you just throw a couple wheat pennies in there? I believe some buyers will not like coupons."
He wasn't happy with me because he thought I was being ingrateful. But I was...
I didn't leave him feedback, simply because of his sillyness, but other buyers did leave him neg. feedback.

I truely admire sellers who leave positive feedback after receiving payment, and I could care less if they mess up my order or have slow shipping. I already know they are willing to fix pretty much anything.

I have received items I bought from people and I haven't even sent the payment off. There are some good people out there, and some bad. I guess it's all part of doing business...
Good things,
Ty

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I have received items I bought from people and I haven't even sent the payment off.

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That happened to me once, well, sorta.

I bought an item from a guy insisting on a check or MO. I told him I'd send a personal check right out (which I did). He looked at my feedback (currently 427 pos, 0 neg, 0 neutral) and sent my coin out without waiting for my check.

The irony was that it took 15 days for the USPS to deliver it (1st class mail). I know he sent it when he said he did because of the postmark.

So I figure that the guy is waiting for my check to clear, when in reality the PO has it in a corner somewhere.

"BTW, the new "Bidder 1, Bidder 2, etc." scheme on all auctions helps the scammers. How do we see if know shillers are bidding?"

Click on the link for each bidder and you will get lots of information. It should make spotting a shiller easier (IMHO) When ebay implimented that, they said they would be looking harder for shillers. I guess perhaps they will be tracking IP addresses more closely or somthing. Of course, that remains to be seen............

Mishap.
It's against ebay rules for a seller to set up cheap auctions with the intent of getting lots of cheap feedback. ebay was rampant with folks selling recipes over and over, and in a circle of users to run their feedback up. If it's reported, and ebay agrees with the user reporting, they will shut the auctions down.

"If you check this persons feedback you will see where some bidders have actually bought this penny item more than once. So why would anyone purchase this advice more than once if it weren't for feedback?"

For non power sellers, only 1 positive per user counts. Example, you buy 3 flipper flappers from me, and leave me 3 positive feed-backs, only 1 counts toward the total positive, and the percentage of positive that is displayed for me. The same is true if I left you 3 positives.

Existing power sellers have different rules. I'm not a power seller, and I could be wrong. But I think power sellers have EVERY positive counted, and it also goes with the percentage displayed. Meaning, the 3 positives we talked about would count as 3, not 1.

The link you gave comes up with an ebay error message. Probably maintenance time over there. I'll look at it again later.

If that's wrong, I hope someone will correct me.

Steve the link didn't follow the post though it does to me appear that there is a multitude of penny auctions for those that are seeking penny buys for feedback. I am sure they have learned that what you are saying so they continue to come up with new penny auctions to achieve this. That is why it is a continuous flow of new information for a penny to accomadate those buying these schemes. I am surprised by now that ebay hasn't caught on to the scheme to enhance feedback along with their regular sales to enhance to power sales and continue such.


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