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 Posted 02/07/2012  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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I'll be interested if there is a readable mintmark and the size of the coin


Me too - gut feeling is this is a quarter follis from Siscia bought before a load were found in Eastern Europe, that could explain the price.
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 Posted 02/07/2012  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
No offense, but how many 9 year olds have $50 laying around to spend on anything let alone an ancient coin.

Price could be explained by an unscrupulous dealer seeing an easy opportunity.

And even if there was a parent around, most parents today have a hard enough time helping their children with their 4th grade math, let alone trying to help them ascertain the value of an ancient coin.

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 Posted 02/07/2012  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
I'm reasonably sure I see MAXIMIANVS rather than MAXIMINVS but I cant make out what follows or preceeds so I'm not sure if it is Maximianus or Galerius. If it can be IDed for certain to either it is a $10 coin in that condition but if not clearly identifiable it is less.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Must admit I gave up on trying to read the obv legend, going back to it after Dougs post I can see what could be 'IANVS', I dont think the first picture is flipped.

Guess we need to wait for info or bigger pics from texfischer.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texfischer to your friends list
It was birthday money, and I had to shrink it so it would let me post it, sorry about that.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list

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I had to shrink it so it would let me post it


You needn't shrink the image. Just use the image optimizer just below the body of your message. It works very well for posting images on CCF
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 Posted 02/08/2012  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
It's in the Tutorials link near the top of each page.
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 Posted 02/09/2012  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Did you get a chance to measure the coin texfischer?

I fiddled about with the pictures you posted and it looks very likely its Maximian rather than Maximinus as Doug suggested. I dont think its Galerius.

I still think its a quarter follis so it should be around 20mm in diameter and weigh about 2 grams.

I would guess at the legend being 'IMP CMA MAXIMIANVS AVG' perhaps with 'PF' before 'AVG'. If the above assumptions are correct it will have been minted in Siscia in 305AD, if not we will need to think again

If it is the QF I think it is it is rated in RIC as rarity R3, RIC considered all of these QF coins rare but finds since the book was written have altered most peoples perceptions of this. Even today you will find a wide price range on the 13 know QF coins, look at the price gap on the following two on ebay:

[eBayItem]170779056491[/eBayItem]
[eBayItem]280754716209[/eBayItem]
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 Posted 02/09/2012  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texfischer to your friends list
I measured it at its widest point, and it is exactly 17 mm.
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 Posted 02/09/2012  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
Definitely need larger photos of the coin. Would make it easier. Here is one of mine to show you can have larger photos.

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 Posted 02/09/2012  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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I measured it at its widest point, and it is exactly 17 mm

It is indeed a quarter follis of Maximian then, not as it was sold to you Maximinus I. In truth for someone to ID it as Maximinus I they were way off! It could certainly have been Maximinus II as it can be hard to tell these two (Maximinus II and Maximian) apart if the legends are not clear. Their names and bust styles are similar and they were both shown on QF coins from Siscia in 305AD.

Depending on the full obverse legend (with or without 'PF' towards the end) it is one of the following two coins:

IMP CMA MAXIMIANVS PF AVG - Right, laureate.
GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI - Genius standing left, modius on head holding patera, cornucopiae.
SIS in exerge - Minted 305AD in Siscia (Modern day Croatia).
RIC VI Siscia 146 - Rated R2 for rarity.

IMP CMA MAXIMIANVS AVG - Right, laureate.
GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI - Genius standing left, modius on head holding patera, cornucopiae.
SIS in exerge - Minted 305AD in Siscia (Modern day Croatia).
RIC VI Siscia 147 - Rated R3 for rarity.

You can probably tell in hand which legend looks the more likely.
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 Posted 02/09/2012  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Looks like :RIC 171b MAXIMINUS II Quarter follis Rev. GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, SIS in exergue. Mint of Siscia.
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 Posted 02/09/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list

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Looks like :RIC 171b MAXIMINUS II


Re-read the thread Jesse - plus the 171b legend is too short to fill the available space on the OP coin

I think we have probably confused texfischer enough already in this thread with Maximinus I, Maximinus II, Maximianus and Galerius
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haha oh yeah I was too busy trying to compare pictures.
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 Posted 02/10/2012  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texfischer to your friends list
So, from what I can gather here, it's worth maybe $10?
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