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Pillar of the Community
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I think getting lighting just right may be different for different coins - i.e. their one-size-fits-all approach can miss. The two coins I posted are almost polar opposites in terms of luster and color.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree Captain, it all about lighting, the color temp, angle, intensity, etc. One can manipulate these variables to improve the result.
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Well, if Heritage wants the entire world to know how they photograph their coins, then they can do that themselves. I won't be responsible for it. Obviously, Heritage is a business, and businesses have competitors. Would Intel provide details to AMD about how they wafer their processors?
To assume that there is one person with a single setup that takes photos would be a mistake, in my opinion. Obviously, Heritage and other auction houses have much more at stake when it comes to their photos than do the collectors on this forum. Their auctions are also online and they provide ample printed material to entice bidding.
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Pillar of the Community
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So it's OK then if you only share it with a few special friends? Sounds sort of like that is what you were offering. How does that fit in with your concern about Heritage secrets getting out? Sounds like we might be talk more about ethics than photo tips. But I could be wrong....
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Pillar of the Community
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All this secrecy business sounds like a bunch of silliness to me. Whatever.
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Sandman, I think you are possibly not understanding what your source told you, or your source does not know...
Heritage is using Pros they have on staff and their equipment is worth an awful lot of money. they have photo pros for jewelry, antiques, guns, wine, coins... and who knows what else.
the have the latest and best software to correct images....I know from my (reliable) source that a certain camera mfg is supporting them.
AND, despite all this... Super Dave is right...
heritage and others are very often using the axial set up...in a professional way, with the glass pan adjustable with a knob to set the pane angle to a certain degree so the light will break differently.and the light source is solid, but also adjustable in every direction to give the best effect.
why?
with a slight adjustment they can hide an imperfection if so desired...I believe it is also one of the very few methods to show proof coins and highly reflective coins.
Super Dave, please correct me if I am wrong.
look at ASPEN coins....
I suggested they use axial to do all their crowns.. their answer denied it...
said they use a simple point and shoot
yea..... looks axial to me...
Dave, please bail me out... YOU are the pro here.
CG
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Pillar of the Community
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Okay, here is the deal:
1. I just explained why I wont be posting a company's method of business for the world to see.
2. I can't trust sending what I know to knuckleheads with 50 posts who have never even looked into the photography forum, much less own a camera.
3. Chances are, if you have 500 posts, many of which are in the photography forum, then you will actually be able to use what I have to provide.
4. I'm not stupid.
5. coingirl, have you seen with your own eyes Heritage's setup? I have.
So much for trying to help people out. Please delete this thread.
Edited by Drsandman2
03/17/2012 02:49 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Drsandman2 Posted 03/13/2012 12:39 pm: "In my opinion, some of the Heritage photos are nothing short of amazing.
Anyone know how they do it? What setup do they have?" Quote:
Drsandman2 Posted 03/13/2012 6:38 pm: "I have all the answers. A few weeks ago, I was introduced to a Heritage employee. When I told them I was a coin collector and I loved their images, they said, "Thank god I don't do coins anymore." They use to shoot the coins. So I contacted them.
They were given permission to give me details on their setup, but I don't feel comfortable posting that information here. I'm willing to share what I've learned with Pillars of the Community who have been active in the photography forums. Contact me directly." If you already knew the answer, then why did you open the thread with the question? (rhetorical question) CCF is a forum where folks SHARE information, not goad members with baited questions, and then hold back with answers. You averring you know a process, and then choosing not to share, is akin to someone posting a numismatic article yet not citing sources. It's hearsay, silly, and nothing more. Edited by CheetahCats
03/17/2012 03:38 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Well gee, this has been fun. I get the impression that Drsandman2 is heavily influenced by post counts on this site only, and he is judging participants on their post count. How many members here would have many thousands of posts if we consolidated all our coin site posts?
CC's analysis of the issues at play here is quite succinct.
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Rest in Peace
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I would think whatever Hairytedge allowed an outsider to see, they would have to expect could find its way to the Interwebs, unless he signed a non-disclosure agreement.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am sure Heritage uses nothing proprietary to them so I don't understand why there is any concern
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United States
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In my opinion there are many ways to take a picture of a coin, the biggest differentiators been a cost of the set up. Even with expensive studio like set up (lenses, camera, lights) there will be different results for different people. I am all for sharing our experiences, and I am sure some of the Heritage folks have picked up bits and pieces from this forum.
Perhaps, Instead of saying "I know how they do it, but will tell a chosen few", a better way of approaching this would be asking your Heritage contact if you can share this information with this forum.
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I think I've had enough of this thread. Drsandman2, you haven't done well by yourself in creating this mess.
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