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 Posted 05/12/2012  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The detail in both sides is indistinct, especially on the reverse, suggesting that it has been copied from an original.
That, to my eye, makes it 'iffy'.

Why no patina at all?!

If you have a gut feeling that all is not right, you will never happy with it.

Plenty of nice silver tetradrachms of this general type are available. Wait until another comes along, with which you will feel happy.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
The weight is a red flag if nothing else. Iffy details.
Even at a discount, I'd never feel certain about it.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
Lets throw in one more point about coins you find questionable. If you buy the coin from a dealer you choose to trust but decide you have outgrown it in a few years, just who do you expect to buy it? Will you be a respected authority and beginners accept your word or will the coin have to stand on its own merits? It will still look questionable. Do you want the coin bad enough to keep it, questions and all, forever? Is the discount you are getting deep enough that you can put the coin in your 'Black Museum' and not feel bad about the money you lost? 'Fake' does not often heal. (I know one example of a coin pretty universally declared fake later determined to be real; who can name it?)
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 Posted 05/12/2012  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Ummm, is the answer "stevex6's little weird Attic Owl coin"?

... just joking

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05/12/2012 08:07 am
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 Posted 05/12/2012  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
The EID MAR Denarius Coin because it had a portrait of a living person on it?
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 Posted 05/12/2012  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
I've got a few coins that I'm not too sure about that I've purchased this past year, and they came from a dealer who seems to know his coins, I never contacted him about these coins because they lost the color and there seems to be plastic filler in spots.. The details and lettering are very mushy on these coins and I don't know what they where colored with but looks like a green paint because it came off very fast with just a little water/oil. I noticed these coins as soon as I held them. So I have about 4 coins that look like they where cast and a couple others that look like someone used plastic or some sort of metal jewelry filler. I guess I'm stuck with them now.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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Will you be a respected authority and beginners accept your word or will the coin have to stand on its own merits?
Since I will never be an authority, I hope my coins will stand by their own merits--although buying from a well-respected dealer cannot hurt either.

As for the second question, the Eid Mar coin is an interesting answer.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
You can always use them as very interesting(and hopefully not too expensive) poker chips... Sort of like that hoard of Faustian coins but those where real
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 Posted 05/12/2012  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitianus_II

In 1900 a coin was discovered bearing the name Domitianus but in the style of the Gallic Empire (when Aurelian was the legitimate Roman Emperor). Scholars of the day doubted the existance of a figure of this name and delared the coin a fabrication. in 2003, a huge hoard of fused coins was discovered and separated in the British Museum. In the middle of the lump was a second specimen of Domitianus (now called Domitianus II to separate him from the 1st century Domitian). The circumstances of the second find made scholars rethink the first coin which then became 'genuine' after a hundred years as being considered false. I can not help wondering why someone at the first museum never threw the thing out but that woul now be considered a really big mistake. Since neither coin will be sold by their museums, we will not know their cash value. Every year now, 100,000 people will hope their new uncleaned coin lot will contain coin number three. Unlikely but not impossible. Winning over $100 million in a lottery twice would be more likely but we can always hope.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
If that is a fake I don't think it looks too bad. I agree if there is any doubt that it's a genuine coin you will never feel good about the it. Look at these two I am pretty sure ther are fake but I keep hoping I'm wrong that they look like that because maybe they where just corroded ground finds. The color came off pretty quick and I put dellers darkener on them but they still don't look right.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
jessvc1: The images you posted are pretty dark and I really can't tell much. The coin on the left looks like Domitian. From what I can see, it looks right to me. See if you can post better images
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 Posted 05/12/2012  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
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 Posted 05/12/2012  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
That's how the coins look " black"
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 Posted 05/12/2012  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
jessvc1: While you are at it, (I think it would help us to help you), if you could post pictures of the edges, at a point(s) which would be of most interest to you.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I brightened up your images a bit. I don't see anything wrong with either coin.

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