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Black Dots/Points On New Silver Never Opened Coin ?

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 Posted 06/20/2012  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
Are these the highest points of the design and if so, are they touching or able to rub against the plastic case?
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 Posted 06/20/2012  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
No, they are not the highest points, and even if they are, they should not be touching the plastic casing. In the first picture, it is definitely not at the highest point.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ail to your friends list
i actually have a similar problem with one of my coins...i was wondering the same thing.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list
My guess is that something contaminated it during packing. Dirty hands or contaminated capsule.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list
I also have a coin with the same problem


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 Posted 07/04/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
Unfortunately no one has a concrete answer
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 Posted 07/05/2012  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Oxidation. To me, it looks like the coins have been stored in a high humidity environment. Over time, all silver coins will eventually spot, or tone, especially coins that contain other minerals, like copper. The only thing you can do is try to keep the humidity down where you store your coins.
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 Posted 07/05/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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I have an off-topic question. Would .9999 silver ever rust or oxidate? I know sterling silver would, but not sure about .9999 (pure) silver. Thanks.

All silver will tarnish, no matter how pure it is. Tarnish is caused by exposure to sulfur, rather than oxygen.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonar to your friends list
CP employees sometimes do open the air-tite coin capsule, at least that is what I saw yesterday. God knows whether their hands or gloves have been truly cleaned.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list
^I never thought of that. Any food residue left on their hands would easily do the trick.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list
So if that happens to my coins, how could I remove them?
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 Posted 05/26/2015  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
Sorry for bumping the topic guys, but I am willing to send the coin for grading by NGC. I am wondering if there is something I could ask them to write on it. Oxidized/tarnished or something, since the coin was never touched and was sealed, so pretty interesting if possible.

Thanks.
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 Posted 05/26/2015  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
There isn't anything the TPG adds with respect to toning. If they think the toning is "natural", then they'll incorporate it into the grade. If they think it's "not natural", then they'll refuse to grade it.

Just out of curiosity, has the coin's appearance degraded further in the three years since you first posted this topic?
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 Posted 11/17/2016  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alanriffle to your friends list
The black spots on mint Canadian silver dollars are SULFUR spots, not CARBON spots as they are mistakenly called in so many websites. The sulfur comes from the environment and can appear even on silver coins that have never been unsealed. it can appear on some coins and not on others in the same batch. No one can explain why.

I inherited a batch of 80 Canadian silver dollars (I think they are called "Loonies". They were all sealed, somewhat crudely, in cellophane stamped "CANADA-ROYAL-CANADIAN-MINT" around the edges. Out of the 80, 28 had small, black SULFUR spots in random ares, mostly near the rim, or just on the outside of the rim. Since they are sealed, for me removing these spots is mostly moot, as I would be foolish to take the out of the government mint package.

However, a couple of the packages containing coins with SULFUR spots have become open over time, so I have googled and can find little sound advice about how to clean these coins. There is even very little mention using the term SULFUR for spot cleaning, as the spots are mostly referred to, incorrectly, as carbon spots.

There is one website which recommends using lemon acid baths for up to 24 hours and also rubbing the spots with a raw piece of potato? which has been dipped in warm white vinegar. What little I remember from my college chemistry class causes me to lean towards an acid as being most likely to remove sulfur, so I will experiment and report my findings in a later post. Good luck to all.

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 Posted 11/17/2016  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Hi allanriffle-


Enjoy your time on the forum.

Just to make a slight correction on your post,
Canadian Silver Dollars are still called Silver Dollars.
Loonies are a nickle/bronze coin that replaced the NIckle Dollar
in 1987 that have a Loon on the reverse hence the name "Loonie"
What are the years of the Silver Dollars you inherited?
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