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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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You are all correct. I saw this coin forcsale on ebay and thought the same as most of you. But it took me some digging to find it. There is no doubt it is a fake. Even helvetica's has it tagged as fake at the bottom of her Probus page. Good eye on all of you. |
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Moderator
 United States
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Resently there appears to be a number of fake coin of Probus being found more so than any other emperor in his time period. For the most part his coins are not rare and wouldn't bring in a high price. I wonder why we are seeing his coins and not say Aurelian or Claudius II?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Did the dealer realize its a fake, did you buy it knowing it was fake?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4253 Posts |
I did not buy it. I just saw it and thought there was something "different" so I did my usual thing and researched it. The more I looked into it, the more I was convinced it was not genuine. And then I saw the note at the bottom of Helvetica's Probus page. I wanted to show here that even common coins are now being faked. Probus of all coins! When I was in Croatia last, Probus was probably the most available coins. As I said in another thread just this morning, we all have to be vigilant or we are going to be throwing our money out the window. As far as the dealer, it is a dealer I have bought from in the past without problem. I did notify him, but I have not heard back. If he doesn't acknowledge my email, I will be through dealing with him and I will let everyone here know who it is. However, I'm getting ahead of myself. Hopefully, this dealer did not realize this coin was a fake and will acknowledge that. But even so, I will now be looking quite hard at any other coins he has for sale.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4973 Posts |
interesting...like echizento I would like to know what the point is of faking these low cost coins? Esp. seeded in uncleaned lots that are selling for cheap? just for kicks?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like the coin sold for 29.85 after 17 bids, or one just like it.
There is profit in faking common coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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They were being offered to dealers in Europe in lots of 1,000 at Eur 3.00 each claiming to have come from a hoard. These were easily spotted. They then started to treat them to make them appear uncleaned and adding them to uncleaned lots. The buyers of these lots were getting excited at finding high grade silvered ants that took very little cleaning and refused to believe that they were fakes since they had "cleaned them myself". Some ordered more uncleaned coins from the same sources thinking they were on to a good thing only to find that the next batch mainly consisted of these fakes. Production costs must therefore be low enough for them to make a profit at around $1 per coin.
They have been turning up since early-mid 2009.
Martin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4253 Posts |
The seller contacted me and said that I must be wrong as "he cleaned it" himself (didn't we just hear that?). He says he stands behind all his sales. I have since written him back and provided the links showing this coin to be fake. Now the ball is in his court. I don't think it necessary to identify this seller as he did at least contact me about the coin. But I will be watching.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Keep us posted JW....as I always watch for your comments.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4778 Posts |
Anything new?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4253 Posts |
Never heard anything else and I don't expect to. Ah well, I will keep an eye out for others like it though.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts |
There is at least one on ebay each week from this group of fakes. |
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Valued Member
Ireland
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Would you mind letting us know who the dealer is? Just so we (me!) can be that little bit more careful in purchasing from him/her in future?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4253 Posts |
I would hate to put the name in open forum unless I knew for sure this seller was consistently selling known fakes. Every seller and many dealers can make mistakes. So far, this is the only coin I have ever seen from this seller that I have questioned. If you want the sellers name, PM me once you reach 50 posts (2 more for you), and I will gladly send you the name.
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Valued Member
Ireland
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That's fair enough. PM sent.
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