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I see you're in Saudi Arabia. Where? I was in Ryiadh in the early 90's. BTW, you are quite welcome. I enjoy the identification process. I'm not always correct though, but there are others here who are ready to correct if necessary.
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Yes I am in saudi arabia I work in dammam......not really the best and most fun place to live in the world....ill tell you that. Riyadh is nice just a little too strict for my liking
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 to the community This is a very nice looking coin with excelent detail. I would be willing to pay up to $130. |
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United States
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I disagree, I don't see anything that would indicate to me that it's fake.
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United States
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Well, I'm not saying you are wrong Dionysos, but I don't see the resemblance to the coin you posted from Forum fakes. To my untrained eye, these two coins are totally different, from the strike to the legends. Do you care to elaborate on why you think the OP coin is a fake? I would be most interested as I believe saurabh might be.
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Canada
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They are of the same dies and the style is not very good imo. The one from the OP is a cast from the one I've linked to (or of the same host). From the pic below, you can see that the reverse legend/exergue wich goes off flan on the second coin is truncated on the first one in an identical way, even if the flan is broader and should show the complete strike.  Edited by Dionysos
09/14/2012 2:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with Dionysos. The dies are fake making coins that differ more than would casts. The style is not right for Trajan. I suspect that more research might pin the coin to one of the known fakers (Lipanoff?) and regret that the Forvm listing did not give this information.
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I didn't consider the edge, but now I see what you mean. The coin looked otherwise normal, even the patina looked right. I would not have caught this as a fakes coin. I stand corrected. I learned something new today.
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Saudi Arabia
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Well not that I wouldnt say the coin CANT be fake....id definitely be surprised if it were.
The coin has probably been in my grandparents house for over 30 years and I found it along with some Ottaman Empire coins (i could put up the pics as well here)
are you pretty sure this one is fake ?
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Canada
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"are you pretty sure this one is fake ?"
No doubts for me, as fake as can be...
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United Kingdom
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Saurabh, Im sorry to say it, but unless your grandparents were coin fakers and this is an original and the rest are casts, I see very little way it could be real. It could be silver, I doubt this too though. I suggest you try testing it for silver - be destructive if you like, its not going to harm its numismatic value. I would keep it - its an excellent fake (the style is slightly off), but the real deal maker here is the patina/dirt. It looks the real deal. I suggest you buy a metal stamp and stamp an F into it, then keep it as if it were real. |
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United States
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saurabh: It had me fooled this morning. My attribution is correct, but the coin is, regrettably, fake. The evidence is overwhelming. You mentioned that your grandparents must have had the coins for more than 30 years. Many of the better fakes were made more than 30 years ago. Lipanoff fakes began surfacing in the 80's I believe. By all means, post the Ottoman coins here. We don't see many here, but someone may be able to ID them. I'm sorry for the bad news my friend.
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Yes, sorry, it is indeed a fake, of the type listed on FORVM and linked to by Dionysos. The key indicator to me is the identical fashion the "C" is missing from the beginning of the reverse legend. Both this coin and the one on FORVM say "OS V" instead of "COS V", and there's a "hyphen" or "underscore" where the C is supposed to be. Presumably on the original coin used as the model for this copy, the poor centring highlighted by Dionysos meant that most of the "C" had fallen off the edge of the flan, and the hyphen/underscore is all that's left of it.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Posted 09/14/2012 11:46 am
