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Do Previous Owners Effect Value?

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 Posted 09/16/2012  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
I had to look up Eliasberg. But you can't tell me that if you know your coin was once owned by John Q. Adams it would not raise the vale to some extent.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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part of the collection of Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle
That would get my attention too, since I'm a big fan of Sherlock Holmes. From a half-dozen stories involving gems, I knew Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle had an interest there, so I'm not suprised he was a coin collector too.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nothus to your friends list
Arthur Conan-Doyle and a founding father?! Wow, either one of those would somewhat raise value to me, especially JQA. I think I would avoid something like an Eliasberg coin though; for some reason I have a problem with a collection that complete being broken up and sold in pieces like a junkyard Caddy, even though it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Not sure why, unless it is simply avoinding the bad karma of completely undoing something that somebody spent so many years lovingly piecing together. Just seems wrong to me. Thanks for the input all. I think I will stick with my skepticism and label the coin I saw as 'overpriced.'
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 Posted 09/16/2012  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nothus to your friends list
I love his stories too. And I would get a perverse pleasure out of having corrected his misattribution.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I hope in the distant future everyone bids high for the coins of Sir Ancient Noob.
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 Posted 09/16/2012  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
I guarantee you that if you manage to get knighted, then I'll invest heavily in the "Sir A-noob Coin Collection"!!

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 Posted 09/17/2012  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I don't own any coins that were owned by famous people but were owned by numismatists.

I have a few ALexandrian Tets. of Probus that I bought from Keith Emmett, Author of "Alexandrian Coins", who in turn bought them from Col. James W. Curtis, Author of "The Tetradrachms of Roman Egypt.". They were provided with the tags and flip used by Emmett and the 2x2s that had been previously used by Curtis.

All this adds very little to their financial value but does provide some provenance.

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 Posted 09/17/2012  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
If you stick with collecting long enough you might enjoy the coins you have that once belonged to friends who helped you in the earlier days of your hobby. My current treasures once belonged to Roger Bickford-Smith who got we started in Eastern Severan denarii and Grant Edwards who introduced me to technical collecting.

Advertisement: When my grandson sells my coins someday, I hope you will pay extra because they were mine. I don't act and am not planning on being President so we'll have to rely on these old posts to add imaginary value.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Whether the previous owners were "famous" people, "famous" collectors, or just "ordinary" run-of-the-mill collectors, you should always keep any proof of provenance that may have come with the coins or you may otherwise come across. Especially if you plan on travelling overseas and taking your coins with you; having something that proves your coins are not freshly-looted antiquities is becoming more and more necessary these days.

Maybe only "famous" people add value, but any provenance at all adds character to your collection, and helps you realize you are but one in what will hopefully be a long line of custodians.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I have some Roger Bickford-Smith coins too.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Pedegree can and will give any coin a boost...you just have to provide/prove the paper trail.
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 Posted 09/17/2012  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I never like to pay a premium for coins, but I have followed the DougSmith site for a while and would pay a premium for a ex-DougS Stater of Aegina...just saying....
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 Posted 09/17/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
Over my dead body. Actually I can think of a couple coins I would trade that stater for but nobody in their right mind would consider that!
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 Posted 09/18/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
@Doug- you assume we are in the right state of mind.

..............Get'em guys 30 pieces of silver to the man that brings me the stater.

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 Posted 09/19/2012  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I have a 1904 Afghan Paisa that used to be part of the William Spengler Collection. Spengler was a former State Department employee who amassed a good portion of his collection while being stationed in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Most of the coins that he bought were from scrap dealers who were melting the coins to make jewelry. He actually wrote several books on ancient coins based on his acquisitions. The coin didn't cost any extra, but the story behind its former owner is intriguing.
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