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Most Recent Purchase + Toned Beauty. Whats Your Thoughts

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 Posted 11/08/2012  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
I may be wrong but in my opinion that coin is 100% artificial toning.

I'm a little surprised most others don't agree with me.
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 Posted 11/08/2012  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list
double.... from what I have seen on ebay the AT always looks like a near perfect circular rainbow pattern.. almost target like.. ..I have several toned beauties and they are all different colors and patterns but not one has that target type effect... I know of a few sellers on ebay that have nothing but that type of coin ok most are US dollars but same thing...
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 Posted 11/08/2012  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
I believe the spotty blue toning could very well be natural (and at the time the rest of the coin was brilliant white) and then it was 'helped' along as proof of the orangy-brown toning.

This orangy-brown toning to me is 95% of the time artificial.
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 Posted 11/08/2012  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list
Question......

In regards to ALL toned coins, what is the best method of storing them to retain its current toned state?
If they aren't air tight will they continue to tone?
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 Posted 11/08/2012  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list
I beleive they do continue to tone .. remember there is air sealed in to any slab unless they are vacuum sealed .. But that's what make's them so wonderful to look at
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 Posted 11/08/2012  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list
I don't know how a coin would tone equally on both sides. If 'left in the wild' a coin is either face up or down - that face will tone, the other will be protected. When inside the fabled craft paper envelope, the tone does not have the iridescence collectors want.

In other words, for me, either the toning is only on one face or it is fabricated. HOWEVER that does not detract from the beauty of these coins. I just think we have to know what we have and admire
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 Posted 11/08/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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so what you are saying is that all his coins are artificially toned aswell ?


I did not say that. You expressed a desire for wild toning, on both sides of the coin, for every year. All I did was provide a link to an older thread on this site. Google is your friend, try doing some research on the topic, if you are intending to purchase toned coins. Sometimes, the eye-appeal trumps artificial toning, but sometimes what looks nice now is a disaster down the road...

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 Posted 11/08/2012  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list
I've seen many, many toned coins, and I definitely do not believe that coin toned that way naturally. Looks like extreme heat did that.

I am VERY surprised that it made it into an ICCS holder.
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 Posted 11/08/2012  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
I have very high regard for ICCS.

But I do believe they will holder a coin eventhough they have a very strong suspicion the coin's colour has been altered.
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 Posted 11/08/2012  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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I don't know how a coin would tone equally on both sides. If 'left in the wild' a coin is either face up or down - that face will tone, the other will be protected. When inside the fabled craft paper envelope, the tone does not have the iridescence collectors want.


There are exceptions here, the coins in white cardboard prooflike holders 1953-1960, 1967 specimen sets (red case or black case), cased dollars 1970-1973 and 1971-1973 double dollar Prestige sets. You will find toning on both sides of those coins, if left undisturbed in the original holder/case of issue, and if stored in an environment suitable for toning.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list
Hello Sid, here's the E-bay auction I.D.# I told you about earlier. I've alway's known you've had a shinin' for high end halves! This should be a nice treat for you.

>>>>>>>>> 170937882443

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 Posted 11/10/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
IMHO artificial toning all the way and plus 50 per cent over is too much! You can buy nice raw EIIR dollars for 98- 110 of spot all over the place. Surprised ICCS missed the AT on this coin.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list
would AT not leave trace evidence , such as hairlines , or other type of surface damage ? I'm no pro but after 30+ years collecting I can usually spot a surface with marks...This coin has ZERO imperfections in the fields ..The coin is perfectly flawless..... Unless there is a method to tone without causing damage then I will stick to this is Natural all the way.......

Glenn thanks I have on my list ,,,Mine is also a 55 but :) the more the merrier ....
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 Posted 11/10/2012  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Toning, artificial or otherwise, does not physically mark the surface of a coin. Toning is a function of the environment a surface (in this case silver) is exposed to, and that environment includes humidity and other elements, like sulphur. Artificially toning can actually be done with exposure to various gases.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list
Thanks , think I will do some reading on this..
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