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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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nickel planchet struck with dies designed for tombac planchet.
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice find! How uncommon are these?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You're sure that this one is not counterfeit?
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  Canada
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Very, very sure. I even tested it with the XRF and examined the rim with the SEM.
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Rest in Peace
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SPP...You have access to a SEM...Nice.....  You spoiled little brat... 
Edited by wert 11/17/2012 7:21 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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SPP - Could you post a couple more pictures at different angles . In the picture you provide it looks like there is a possibility that a round one was given sides . If you look in the picture especially above the "5 cents" the rim looks rounded over .
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I think the lack of denticles would rule that out immediately. I have another picture I can put up - but I no longer have the coin...
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Valued Member
Canada
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Easy to remove something that is there ( not saying this one ) . The rim doesn't look right in the pictures . Being different materials , the striking pressure would have been different . The "nickel" shouldn't have struck up so nice .
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Valued Member
Canada
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like to see the obverse if you have a picture of it .
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  Canada
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I don't have a picture of the obverse. But, the owner of this coin wanted me to test and confirm the composition of some of the pattern pieces in their collection. The coin I tested, and photographed in my lab, is the same coin seen here: http://www.currencymuseum.ca/collec...5-cents-1942The odd part is, that this coin is catalogued as a "trial strike", but it is circulated and 100% nickel. Trial strikes are never circulated. I think it is as others surmised - a nickel planchet strike by dies intended for tombac blanks.
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Edited by SPP-Ottawa 11/18/2012 7:31 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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SPP - Is it the exact same coin in the link ? The coin in the link looks weaker struck ( which one would suspect in this case ). If is is the exact one then it most likely is just a wrong planchet strike . They don't look the same - must be different lighting if they are .
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Moderator
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It is the same coin - with vastly different photographic techniques. My photo was taken with an iPhone. Look at the large mark in the fields above the N in CENTS, it is the same.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Interesting development!What has been the museum curators' response? Did the coin's owner influence the assessment?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
Edited by DBM 11/19/2012 10:28 am
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No. Once I had it hand, I told the curator what I thought it was... and he agreed. If this sucker was pulled out of circulation, potentially there could be others?
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Valued Member
Canada
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Interesting piece , most likely a wrong planchet strike . Photos online can be so deceiving .
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