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 Posted 01/03/2013  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Didn't think to look and see if you had a silver bullion forum.
No problem.

I went ahead and moved this thread there for you.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list
As said above.... collector-prized, high-premium = J-M and Engelhard brands and poured bars in general. I think also that 5oz bars tend to cost a bit more per oz than 10oz bars.

But...if you want to stack silver inexpensively, I think you'll find better prices on 10oz extruded/stamped bars. No classy collector-prized provenance there---just plain silver--period.
Little gets cheaper than the bar prices offered by Goldmart, but also check out any local coin shops or shows where you live.

That having been said, I confess I've recently started stacking older extruded/stamped Engelhard bars. In another year, I'll probably have moved all the way over into the even older
poured Engelhard bars. As the old saying goes, "Go figure..." At any rate---happy hunting, happy shopping, and happy stacking!
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 Posted 01/03/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
If it is 5 oz bars you are after maybe take a look at the bullion version of the America the Beautiful 5 oz coins. In the bullion form they don't carry a large premium. For example silver is around $30.50 and they are selling for $178. There are 5 different versions produced each year to match the quarters.

This may be different all over, but my LCS will not pay me as much per oz for generic bars. They only pay spot for name brand bars and coins. You may need to shop around to get spot.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list
@tpg22---You're right! My thinking was so bar-focused I didn't even think of the 5oz ATB's. They have a moderate premium
and they trade back in a whole lot better than bars do. They're probably the superior vehicle in the 5oz silver class.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list
What do you guys think about Monarch 10 oz bars?

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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list
I don't have any and I haven't seen any @ shows or LCS's, but I've been in lust with all the Monarch poured bars since I first saw their website.
They put out almost every known size bar and they must be close to the only manufacturer still putting out poured bars.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
Has anyone ever ordered from Monarch? They have 6 oz and 12 oz Silver Eagles and some neat looking bars.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add auptpdag1995 to your friends list
I've ordered from them without any issues this past summer. Recently I had a order in my shopping cart that they jacked the price of up right before I submitted the order. It was for the 1 gram gold rounds they make. They'd increased the price of them by $5 (not spot price driven). I was livid, but I think it was just bad timing on my part. That increase was a deal breaker for me though . . . I notice that Monarch and APMEX inventory has been taking a real big hit this week based on items I'm looking to purchase pretty much vanishing before my very eyes before I can pull the trigger on the shopping cart order submission pages.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
auptdag, have you ever sold one of their bars? Are they considered generic?
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 Posted 01/03/2013  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list
I'm lucky... my dad agreed to pay for any increase in cost until I can order the bar

So I can wait until they have them in stock...
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 Posted 01/03/2013  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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If it is 5 oz bars you are after maybe take a look at the bullion version of the America the Beautiful 5 oz coins. In the bullion form they don't carry a large premium. For example silver is around $30.50 and they are selling for $178. There are 5 different versions produced each year to match the quarters.


Great idea. They have the added benefit of being made by the mint too
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 Posted 01/03/2013  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add auptpdag1995 to your friends list

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auptdag, have you ever sold one of their bars? Are they considered generic?


No, as a rule I never sell what I accumulate, although I have considered buying a few gold coins I know I can flip for a profit here and there. I love Monarch poured bars, but I don't think they command a premium on resale like JM and Engelhard bars do. Maybe in a few decades . . .
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 Posted 01/03/2013  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list
Here's the challenge, if you can find a show, or LCS that has a 5 oz Engelhard or JM - you can usually get them for spot with a minimal premium...really depends on the dealer. APMEX charges an offensive premium for their JM/E products...the 5 oz included.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add auptpdag1995 to your friends list

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Apmex charges an offensive premium for their JM/E products

Agreed!
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 Posted 01/03/2013  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldGold to your friends list

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They put out almost every known size bar and they must be close to the only manufacturer still putting out poured bars.


SilverTowne is making pours in 5, 10, 50 and 100 Ozs.

http://www.silvertowne.com/c-498-si...ne-bars.aspx
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