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Roman Republic P. Furius Crassipes Denarius

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 Posted 01/10/2013  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
I am really loving this coin!
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 Posted 01/10/2013  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Possibly a very stupid question but what does the 'P' stand for and why do many of these older issuers always have an abbreviated letter at the start of their names?
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 Posted 01/10/2013  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
The P stands for Publius: Publius Furius Crassipes, curule aedile in 84 BC. Why they abbreviate the first name, or praenomen, I do not have an answer.

Here is some history of the name as I have found on the internet:

The nomen Furius is a patronymic surname derived from Fusus, apparently an ancient praenomen that had fallen out of use before historical times. This name was preserved, however, as a cognomen used by many of the early Furii, including the families of the Medullini and the Pacili.

The principal names used by members of this family are Lucius, Spurius, Publius, Marcus, Agrippa, Sextus, and Quintus. The Furii Pacili used Gaius, a name not used by other branches of the gens.

Other praenomina appear towards the end of the Republic, and may represent plebeian branches of the family. The Furii Brocchi are distinguished by their use of Gnaeus and Titus. A late 2nd century BC poet bore the praenomen Aulus, while a Furius of equestrian rank during the time of Cicero was named Numerius.

The cognomina of this gens are Aculeo, Bibaculus, Brocchus, Camillus, Crassipes, Fusus, Luscus, Medullinus, Pacilus, Philus, and Purpureo. The only cognomina that occur on coins are Brocchus, Crassipes, Philus, and Purpureo.

Fusus was a surname of two families, the Medullini and Pacili. Some members of the Furia gens, who occur in the Fasti without any other surname than that of Fusus, probably belonged either to the Medullini or the Pacili, and must not be regarded as forming a separate family.

There are some persons bearing the gentile name Furius, who were plebeians, since they are mentioned as tribunes of the plebs; and those persons either had gone over from the patricians to the plebeians, or they were descended from freedmen or some family of the Furii
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 Posted 01/10/2013  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list
Great Coin!



Great info with it Bing...
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 Posted 01/10/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
These Romans really went off the deep end with there name, names and naming structures.

I almost perfer something more Greek....

Like

Noobiochus I Coingetes

rather than
Noobius Buyus Coinus Internetus
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.That's great noobster!
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It's all Greek to me.
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 Posted 01/10/2013  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Thanks for the info JW, had puzzled me for a while
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 Posted 01/10/2013  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
Glad if I was of any assistance BH
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 Posted 01/14/2013  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list
I received this Denarius today, and it's as nice as the seller's images indicated. However, here are my images compared to his:

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 Posted 01/14/2013  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list
Very nice coin! Congrats!
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One word Awesome...
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 Posted 01/14/2013  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Yes I agree awesome. I like your last photo best. Really brings out the awesome.
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