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 Posted 01/20/2013  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vesper to your friends list
I'm not convinced we have to worry too much about the youth not wanting to collect. Sure, when in school surrounded by their peers they will forget the coins and want the games. This was like me... My grandfather did well to introduce me to collecting, buying me albums to fill with pennies and eventually passing on his collection in his will.

It was only when I entered my twenties and had disposable income that I came back to collecting. I believe this will be true with many kids who seem to have lost interest from their early childhood. It even is rubbing off on some friends. I called one the other day and he too broke out his old collection to see what he had and tell me about it.

I too believe the bullion craze will ebb and flow over time, and so will numismatics... but I can really see all those kids from my generation who have stashed away State Quarters and now the ATBs, finding those down the road with many getting the "bug" and then collecting for life.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
To George8789,
There is no substitute for looking at and handling coins in person.
If you trust the coinshop and if your experiences have been pleasant, then by all means continue to do what you are doing.
You are fortunate, as others have said, to live in an area where you have access. Many collectors in more rural areas are forced to use Internet outlets.
But the bottom line is the same: there are good, bad and indifferent dealers everywhere. It is part of the learning process.

To everyone else,
There was a table at today's coin show which featured sports' cards, comics and a few coins. While dad was away getting a doughnut his young son took over like a pro:
"The comics are a dollar. I have read them all. Let me know if you need help."
Well, there IS a younger generation learning how to be a salesperson. It did my heart good.

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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list
One of the LCS I go to has so many people looking to buy silver that I can't even get close to the US coins. All I have seen collecting besides myself are a couple people that browse all the Morgans that come in.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list
WElll...

I came back to the hobby after many years out. you know what got me into collecting was the American Silver eagles. Sure I saw the dimes, nickels and what not. But they never caught with me. The Eagles did tho, and then gold eagles. Then as time progressed, I started into world bullion and proof gold and silver coins mainly from gov mints and now as I come back I am finding out the private mints.

I find theres just so many beautiful silver and gold proof coins such as the eagles, the pandas, Kooks, Libertads to name a few.

Now, for me, going to the coin shop,, I just dont have time for it. Trading from sun up to sun down, M-F, I dont have the Libertad (no pun intended) lol to go to the coin shop, shoot the breeze, look over the coins and take my time. I would LOVE too but I cant and so for me, zipping along the net is the best thing hunting down my coins.

Now, 6-8 months ago I did stop at my local coin shop and wanted some air-tites. Well, my dealer didnt have much of those which was pretty disappointing. So I felt I wasted a trip, and that was on the weekend.

So I think theres a lot of folks who are in the same boat, not so much the economy but a time factor. Furthermore, lets face it- coins arent as "cool" as the mainstream public would see it. In the day and age of social media instant communication, coins take a back seat.

There will always be a core group of coin hobbyists. Thats not going away. Coins are cool.. but they dont meet the definition of whats pushed in todays world. After all I havent seen a 2014 Samsung Galaxy Silver proof phone with COA and low mintage yet nor an iCoin table from aapl lol.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bettaguy2 to your friends list
This has been a good read.
My original post "disappeared" so if this a duplicate please forgive. I'll try and be more concise with this one.

I have access to many LCS's and shows. I'm fortunate. I prefer to examine coins in hand to internet shopping. I've been taken advantage of on line, buyer beware!

I went to a shop to ask the owner what he thought of my grading attempt on some Lincolns. He said it was a breath of fresh air to have someone walk in and talk coins instead of bullion.

Coin collecting was popular among my classmates in the '70's. Collecting things in general. A lot has changed since. One thing for me is money to purchase! LOL.

My wife actually rekindled my interest in coin collecting. Turns out she frequented a LCS as a girl viewing the "old" coins. Smudged up the glass counters and was shooed away. LOL.

My kids as young adults don't have the same interest. So far. Waiting for Grandchildren now.

BTW, shops here have become mostly bullion trading places. As a collector wanting to view coins it's rough here, too.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimjumper to your friends list
I decided to take a while to post just to see if my inclinations where what others were seeing. I have 2 LCS's in my town and one is mostly bullion but the owner prefers making money on coins. The other deals in coins exclusively. I thought that was odd but when I stopped in to talk to him about it, he told me that due to the deterioration of the town a large portion of the bullion walking in the door was stolen! So, he doesn't deal in it and he doesn't have the cops stopping by every other day to check for stolen property. He also said that with the slim profit margins that it was wasn't worth the effort in handling the quantities needed to make money. I still like going to a shop for coins but the more specialized my collecting becomes the more I have to turn to the Internet for things I want.

I also noted that a lot of people are concerned about attracting the young to the hobby. When I first joined my local club I thought it would be a priority for them too but it just wasn't the case. We discovered that our greatest source of new members is the middle-aged. Their kids are grown and they have the free time and money to indulge themselves. We get many more members from this segment of the community so we make them the focus of our recruiting efforts. Our club meets on a weekday and at noontime so it's convenient for our members and while we don't attract members in large numbers our club members tend to be around longer and are more involved than the youth we recruit.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
To Jimjumper,

"I also noted that a lot of people are concerned about attracting the young to the hobby."

It is for this reason that I emphasized to the parents:
"The CCF is especially devoted to helping FAMILIES to collect together."

I insisted that they check out our site before allowing their son to participate. As it should be. Parents are responsible, or should be.
And while we all would like to see more youngsters get involved, it is the parents' encouragement that keeps the kid involved.

If I am wrong, please tell me.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDCrow to your friends list
One of the things that keeps me going to my local shop week after week is their bid board. I've learned a lot and seen many interesting things studying that board each week.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jimjumper to your friends list
I agree with you and probably didn't phrase it exactly the way I should have. It is nice when families collect together and encourage their children to collect.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list
So if a brick and mortar shop doesn't wish to eat ebay fees and sell for pennies on the dollar they are close-minded? I'm confused. If anything, I would prefer to not sell on ebay. He may need to broaden his options, but ebay shouldn't be the only option, nor should he be mocked for not choosing it.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
What I like is the history of coins and the processes in making them. The fact remains that they are pieces of history and relics of the past. They tell stories. That's the attraction for me. I like to talk history, not mintages and grades, because the common man just doesn't appreciate those kinds of numbers, in my opinion. Coins will never go away. And even if bullion style collecting takes over, that just means that certain coins get rarer, although the downside is that less collectors can own that specific piece of history. It's give and take.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list
Was going to visit my LCS today but I got distracted. I like the guy there, he's in his 70's and does it mostly to get out of the house at this point. Not much up under the displays besides the usual selection of slabbed US and other US type coins, but if you know what you want he usually has something hiding out in his back room (I call it the cave). I collect Islamic and Indian so none of that really, but he does have some nice junk boxes which are good and solid as well as a good foriegn selection. Just gotta ask.
There's another shop I went to about 30 min. away, does the bullion thing, I walked out after he gave me a dirty look when I said I collect Islamic and Indian and did he have any coppers. Now if I see the big "WE BUY GOLD" sign it keeps me out. Been collecting 27 years and the gold/silver bugs are finally getting under my skin. The 1 grain silver ingots make me laugh. Oh and copper bars, seriously?
The gold/silver bugs will be all sad when the price goes down eventually. The only winners in the bullion game are the middle men who take a profit and keep the goods moving along.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

Quote:

So if a brick and mortar shop doesn't wish to eat ebay fees and sell for pennies on the dollar they are close-minded?


It depends on the store, if sales are fine obviously there is no reason to change. If sales are dwindling and they need to start branching to increase them then ebay or at the very least a website to sell on would be a prudent idea.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDCrow to your friends list

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The only winners in the bullion game are the middle men who take a profit and keep the goods moving along.


All the silly people who have invested in gold/silver over the last 10 years when prices have increased more than fivefold sure look foolish.
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 Posted 01/21/2013  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fromms2244 to your friends list
There have been a ton of American Eagles sold. ALot of these just get put up. One day a child is going to find them at their grandparents house and another numismatist is born. Lets don't dog the bullion buzz too much... it is now an intricate part of the hobby.



Edited for spelling
Edited by fromms2244
01/21/2013 10:11 am
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