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Bedrock of the Community
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Could be PP, it's not as clear as the first letter P.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thats definitely P F - is this an error or a variety? Have you checked helvetica?
I checked helvetica - doesn't list this but the ones from this mint with PP are rated Scarce or Rare.
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02/24/2013 5:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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A very nice example, fine details.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wasn't aware of helvetica but will do a search to check there. After looking at it at different angles, it's looks like PF.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Wouldnt matter if it was PP - thats not listed either. Plus, this makes more sense.
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Moderator
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Other than whats listed in Helevtica and the reference I gave you of RIC VIII 239 I have not been able to locate any other reference. So it's possible that it just not listed in RIC or maybe a typo?
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Pillar of the Community
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Not an RIC typo - the picture is clearly DN JOVIANVS PF PP AVG
Perhaps its a mule?
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02/24/2013 6:22 pm
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Moderator
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I admit that my eyes aren't that good anymore but I'm not seeing where it's PF PP. I see DN IOVIANVS PF (PP?) AVG. A mule is very possible.
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Pillar of the Community
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The one shown on wildwinds is "PF PP". Yours omits the PP. Die cutter got tired (or ran out of space). Not a ''mule" which would be 2 different species ie coin dies producing a hybrid.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This one looks like it has the obverse of RIC 235 with the reverse of RIC 239A.
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Pillar of the Community
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3446 Posts |
Still not quite different species. More like 'cousins' from the same family
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That's what I love about ancients, it's not an exact science so many variables.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I think this coin on Wildwinds could be the same as yours IGE and unlisted.  Its IDed as ' RIC 239,A' and as having the legend ' DN IOVIANV-S PF PP AVG' but, just like your coin the legend break seems to be after the ' A' rather than the ' V'. This means it cant be RIC 239. Compare that break with the others on WWs and you can see they are clearly different:  Whatever your coin is (I'm not too sure what that is TBH) its the same as the first one I posted. |
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Pillar of the Community
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A side by side for better comparison:  Both of these are unlisted but I don't think they are die matches (v tired so may be wrong) so I guess its most likely you have a rare variant that was not recorded in RIC as a copy did not reside in any of the collections they used to compile it. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for that example bobbyh, that looks like a real close match. I will just show this one as unlisted. Thanks for the input guys!
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