1794 Half Dollar From Crack-Out Crook Tracy47918040

I never even gave it a thought that someone would submit a coin to NNC to be so called graded. I just thought all NNC coins originated from Centsless and anyone else selling an NNC coin on the bay was just another victim.

Hi guys. I founds this posting on purpose. This person is not a woman. This person is doing a massive fraud-tens of thousands of dollars a month. Working outside ebay as well. Please email me at *** Email Removed by Staff *** or message me.

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M issue with the self proclaimed numismatic police group is this. Who sets the standards? Aside from blatantly obvious fakes being pushed as the real thing, who has the authority to determine someone is doing wrong? I have seen plenty of grand standing in the forums based on nothing more than an issue with wording in a description. And those that do the moral judging are reporting legitimate business folks and messing with their reputation.

To be honest, this is one of the reasons I don't even look on this particular forum as much as I used to. I just KNOW that I am going to see at least a few of these police posts every time that window opens, and I am tired of it. I know, I do not have to read those posts, and usually I don't anymore. But it grates on my nerves even seeing the thread titles because I know what the contents of the thread will be.

It's sad to see someone upset at people that are trying to look out for their fellow man. Fortunately, it is the exception, that people support unscrupulous activity. If a good samaratin hadn't intervened in Cleveland, three innocent women would still be living in horror. Doing the 'right thing' isn't always easy. Those that condone or look away from wrong doing are guilty of abetting. I know I, for one, will continue to do all I can to help keep ebay a safe place for unsuspecting buyers.

I have no problem with that. My response to you was limited strictly to the context of the coin mentioned in the OP. You seem to be painting with a broader brush, and insofar as it applies to the idea of "unsearched rolls," or the ilk, I'm not ready to either hand out pitchforks or condone such a witch-hunt.

But you're a thoughtful man, Don, and I know you're sparing some thought to the future regarding your own holdings. You recognize our status as merely caretakers of history. The practices of persons such as the one identified in the OP work against us, against the idea that there ought to be those following us who share our reverence for our charges. It would only take one episode caused by someone like that to forever sour a promising new collector who just (possibly) overreached for that One Wonderful Coin, only to find out that they'd bought something worth far less than they thought because the seller was morally-challenged.

It's a judgment call, man. We each have to choose our level of tolerance; I've chosen mine, which is stricter than yours, but all the same none of this works without Devil's Advocates like yourself with the guts to argue the other side of the coin (to...heck, I can't say it).

Yeah, I'm going to make a personal choice based on the evidence I see in front of me, to stand against things like this at the line where I've drawn it in the sand. I trust the OP to make similar choices which are defensible to a reasonably-knowledgeable collector, so I back his play. If you see some of his words as hyperbole, don't take is as an exaggeration but as an illustration of his commitment against a problem which you also freely admit exists.

In the end, the final judge is God.......But, here on Earth, the final judge is ebay. We can only bring to light the possible scammers, but, it is ultimately up to ebay to make the final decision. In the case of this seller, ebay ruled the seller is a crook and NARU'd her for her actions. Apparently ebay WANTS US to help police the going ons on their site.......how do I know this? I just received, in my ebay in box, the following;


Hello g048406,

Thank you for your support in making ebay a safe and fair marketplace. Reports from sellers like you, together with our policies, detection systems, and dedicated Seller Protection team, are working to help make ebay a great experience for everyone.

You and I, together, stand a far better chance of making that determination properly than either of us alone. I have called out posters here for making accusations based on incomplete, erroneous or insufficient information, and I would fully expect the same treatment should I ever do the same.




It isn't CCF's purpose to police ebay. You won't see that anywhere in CCF's Mission Statement. But given that outside parties "policing ebay" provides the overwhelming majority of information leading to improper auctions and ripoff members being made to disappear, it's obviously someone's job. The email g048406 posted is their standard message; I have dozens of them in my archives. It's not like I tell them, and an auction is instantly removed; it's ebay's decision every_single_time based on facts I and others supply. It's a neverending job, and as of this moment we're not winning the war. But we're making a difference.

How might you know that, and what effect can any of us have on it?