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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks, BH. I bought the coin earlier today on ebay, for $918, believing it to be problem free and original because it was certified. I just now contacted the seller about returning it.
Edited by Scarp9603 03/30/2013 12:10 am
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United States
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**please ask your question in one forum** Staff
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 with BH1964. Far from original surfaces hopefully you are able to return it. If you are looking for certified coins on ebay I would suggest you stick with PCGS, NGC, and perhaps ANACS until you know what to look for in spotting problem coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It appears to be around AU-53/55. I think the coin is probably lightly cleaned but it seem too bad. Maybe the pictures are making it look worse. All 4 TPG's have given problem free grades to coins that look cleaned so buying from the others is no guarantee you will be receiving a coin with original surfaces.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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This is one coin I would like to have at $600 cleaned than $2,000 unmolested. I could spent the $1,400 on something else. In my case, perhaps a nice ancient!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For $918 I'd return it unless it looked a lot better in-hand. Always buy the coin, not the holder. For $918 you can find a quality AU piece in a top tier TPG holder. Maybe not an AU58 but an AU50 or AU53 with good eye appeal, original surfaces, in PCGS or NGC plastic are available for that kind of money.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
Israel
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Congrats. Nice coin  .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4337 Posts |
 Much better coin for your spend. Great eye appeal on that PCGS. Good luck with it
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Good move. I see the PCGS coin's original listing on ebay and it looks like a conservatively graded piece. Your new one could go 53. :)
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Valued Member
 United States
280 Posts |
the pcgs has little or no cartwheel, but the surfaces appears almost prooflike, does have a bit more luster in the protected areas between the stars and numbers and letters. And I noticed a number of hairlines.
is all this consistent with an original AU50?
Edited by Scarp9603 04/09/2013 4:29 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: is all this consistent with an original AU50? I'd be comfortable with that interpretation. One drag across a coarse tablecloth is capable of creating "hairlines" which, correctly diagnosed, would be market-acceptable for a circulated coin. A PCGS AU50 is a $1k coin at Heritage, or at least one was two months ago.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: is all this consistent with an original AU50? To be frank about it, when I first viewed the PCGS coin I thought it had been quietly net graded 3 or 5 points for a light, market-acceptable cleaning. It looks far better than the ICG coin from what can be seen in the images and likely was a better value based on dollars spent. Please remember you bought the ICG coin for half of what an attractive, original AU58 might have cost. There's a reason for that. The PCGS coin better reflects $900 in value for this date. Whether or not it's entirely original or not? Who knows. You're spending a lot of money here, spend some time learning before dropping a grand on a coin again.
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Valued Member
 United States
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i agree, by my lights, it's a much nicer coin: Great strike, Just a few, small marks, And there is still some luster there.
this coin was too much of a stretch for my level of knowledge. in the future, i'll stick to buying pcgs ngc and anacs coins at close to the melt value.
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Valued Member
 United States
280 Posts |
actually, the "hairlines" look more like the random, minute little marks a coin could get from circulation
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