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Confession Of An Ex-Stacker

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Japan
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 Posted 05/16/2013  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list

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Sorry I'm 100 percent correct. It COULD go up, could being the key word. It could also be the exact same or it could be lower.

No!
Until you use specific time frame, you are wrong.



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Since 1792 theres been exactly 2, yes 2 major spikes now and the 1980s. That was 30 years apart. There was a mini spike in the 1910s, a mini spike in the civil war, and a mini mini spike around the war of 1812. Other than that its been flat the rest of those 200+ years.

please, say "spikes in US"
If you don't know I'll remind you that there are other countries in the world ... and other currencies ... If you want more information please refer to the last 25 years of world history and different countries. Then study how often currency survived, how often states survived, and compare it to PMs. Please, don't think US is a special case - this is FALSE assumption.


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If you dont believe me go look at the yearly average chart on kitco that goes back into the 1700s.

Turkey was fed up 364 days and felt like it'd go forever like this. On day 365th it was executed and eaten on Thanksgiving Day ... Can you extrapolate it and make the chart? Past doesn't predict the future. Compare it to KITCO


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So yes theres exactly a 0 percent assurance that the price will be higher in 15 or so years when its time for her to go to college.
there's 50/50 chance the price goes up or down. Saying 0 - well, no need for me to lecture you, one day you'll realize how wrong you are :)


Anyway, anyone can sell and feel sorry for its investment/savings in silver.


P.S. I'm still buying and selling, stacking and increasing the stack, no matter where the spot is. Yeah, still hold some art bars, rounds, kilo coins that I'd better sell and park the money in better coins, like chinese MCCs ...
P.P.S. Things that got me into PMs are still there. I didn't get in because it was good way to make money. I did get in because it was on of the better way to save my purchasing power than fiat (please, let's talk in 5 years and see how things go, don't point to last crash in PMs)
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United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
Man, this is going to be hard! I woke this morning to discover that silver had dropped to around $22.20 and I had an e-mail from Goldmart informing me that they now had my favorite 100-ounce J&M silver bars back in stock at $0.89 over spot.

Must. Be. Strong.
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05/16/2013 08:51 am
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United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Wow. I saw last night in the 22 range. I wonder what will happen to premiums. I may call my local shop. I haven't purchased since the high premiums really bugged me
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United States
410 Posts
 Posted 05/16/2013  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list

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I know one thing: PM were and are here for several thousands years. Name me any company that survived that long and I'll allocate good share of what I have to it.


Wow, you don't ask for much do you? :) I can't give you a company with a thousand year history but I can give you some with hundreds.

Husqvarna AB: Founded in 1689 in Huskvarna, Sweden. They originally made weapons for the King of Sweden but now make outdoor power equipment. I've visited the original location dozens of times.

Mosdorfer Gmbh: Founded in 1712 as a blacksmith shop making weapons, now they are a global supplier to the electrical utility industry. You can't buy stock though, they have been family owned for 12 generations.

I'm sure they are older companies but these are just two that I have personally done business with.


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I didn't get in because it was good way to make money. I did get in because it was on of the better way to save my purchasing power than fiat (please, let's talk in 5 years and see how things go, don't point to last crash in PMs)


Personally I think you are setting the bar too low. You seem to have given up on the idea of making money and are content just not to lose money. We could talk again in 5 years but I'm sure even if gold has fallen to $100 per ounce the gold bugs will still be saying how it just about to turn around.

Why are you ignoring the last crash in PM's? You have stated that you are saving for your daughters college education in 15 or so years. If PM's follow the same pattern they did last time your investment will be worth a tiny fraction of what it is now when you need to liquidate it and pay for her education. I would think that recent history is much more relevant to the goal of saving for college than ancient history. The price of gold in a thousand years doesn't matter, what matters is the price in 15-20 years.
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United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list

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Wow. I saw last night in the 22 range. I wonder what will happen to premiums. I may call my local shop. I haven't purchased since the high premiums really bugged me


It may be time for me to start that world 1 oz bullion collection. The premiums and shipping will be the deciding factor for me.
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 Posted 05/16/2013  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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there's 50/50 chance the price goes up or down. Saying 0 - well, no need for me to lecture you, one day you'll realize how wrong you are :)


First yes the US is different, we arent Turkey or Greece or any of the corrupt Asian countries or on the brink of the collapse like the USSR. You say things change and things are different then lump us in with 2nd and 3rd world economies as an example, it does apply. I honestly dont care what PMs do in Turkish money I would never be buying them in Turks.

Second you should read what I wrote. There is 0 ASSURANCE that it will go up. You very clearly stated in your first post that you have a great chance of making money on it in the future which isn't true. 0 assurance that it will go up means theres absolutely nothing that assures that it will be higher which is true, not a guarantee it will be lower even though thats likely.
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United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
Yes but look at all the recent corruption. Our great country is crumbling. Every day a new or expanded point of scandal
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United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list

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Yes but look at all the recent corruption. Our great country is crumbling. Every day a new or expanded point of scandal


Yes, and this has been the status quo since 1776. :-)

Want to talk about scandal? Ben Franklin.

Want to talk about crumbing? Civil War.

We're still here.

We are not on the brink of collapse. Our "corruption" and "scandal" rate is holding steady. :-)
Rest in Peace
United States
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 Posted 05/16/2013  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Our leaders know what they are doing.

<cough>pilgrims<cough>turkey<cough>
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 Posted 05/16/2013  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Our great country is crumbling. Every day a new or expanded point of scandal


Like mentioned its going to take a lot more than that to bring us down. doesn't make whats happening right but we need to stop acting like were this fragile country that the slightest thing and its all going to come crashing down. Were not that fragile, or really even fragile at all
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 Posted 05/16/2013  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list


Confession-Of-An-Ex-Stacker
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 Posted 05/16/2013  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
This thread is totally off the track of barry's original post......
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 Posted 05/16/2013  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list

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This thread is totally off the track of barry's original post......


Ya think?
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 Posted 05/16/2013  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list

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This thread is totally off the track of barry's original post......




Perhaps stackers and even collectors needed a brake in purchase once in a while.

There's risks in different type of investments as we all know. That's the uncertainty we all learn to live with, but learning when to sell or buy is the hardest decisions.

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 Posted 05/16/2013  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silvernewbie79 to your friends list
LoL, another topic where Barry talks about being controlled by his wife:)
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