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Real? Fake? Can Anybody Tell From These Images? 1875-CC 20c

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 Posted 09/08/2013  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
I will update with high quality images when it's in hand. Also going to post to the PCGS forums at that point as well. Given where it is shipping from, I probably won't have it until Wednesday at the earliest.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list
What did you pay?
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 Posted 09/08/2013  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
$215.

EDIT: 14 day return privilege.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I'm cautiously optimistic based on really incomplete information but factoring in that you don't get taken to the cleaners very often.

Worth the risk, given the return policy. It's worth every penny of the price if real.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
I am pretty sure it's not cleaned, so not worried about that, and given buyer protection, if it was an obvious counterfeit, I could file SNAD against the seller and get my money back anyway. So I would have bought it regardless of the return privilege.
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 Posted 09/11/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Stupid PO is KILLING me. This was supposed to arrive today along with an '80-CC GSA, instead nobody on my street got mail today. "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds." Yeah, right...
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 Posted 09/12/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Weight; 4.86 grams. Images?

Real?-Fake?-Can-Anybody-Tell-From-These-Images?-1875-CC-20c
Real?-Fake?-Can-Anybody-Tell-From-These-Images?-1875-CC-20c

Poor quality cast counterfeit, imho.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
If the devices and lettering are as poorly formed as your images suggest, I agree it is a counterfeit.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Hmmmm.... That doesn't look so good to me...


If I were you, I would let the seller know it's coming back to him.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
Already did, heh.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list



Unfortunately, that's one of the problems with poor pictures on an online auction. Sometimes it works out with a nice coin, but sometimes the seller is hiding things.

I think we know what was going on here.


Good luck with your return!
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 Posted 09/12/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list
The seller doesn't really deal in coins, he said this came with a box of cards he bought, so my guess is he's being honest. He did say he has a bunch of other stuff he's going to send to me to have me look at, so we'll see if there's anything good in there, I guess...
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 Posted 09/12/2013  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list
The "CC" Mint mark is way off. Strange that the mint mark is very clear but all the details and letters around it are worn. Also, the shape of the "CC" doesn't match what it looks like on a real Twenty Cent Piece.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
That poor pic sure got me thinking it could be genuine. Looks like it was a bit underweight though.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I used to cast lead soldiers and this coin has the same look. Greer has a nice xf to compare with. http://briangreerrarecoins.com/inventory.html?c=30

The weight is atrociously low for a VF-XF.
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