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Bedrock of the Community
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It is possible to still have luster showing even with the black toning because the toning follows the same microscopic contours as the original silver. If you dip it and remove the black toning though it will take those contours with it and you will have a flat dead looking coin with no luster.
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Looks like it's progressed to the point where it would be considered environmental damage.
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Pillar of the Community
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@Docbink, You should make a new thread with the Morgans you've found inside the rolls. (Just so we can drool)
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Not necessarily will a black coin lose the original mint luster.... This coin was black. This is not a good representation of the coin. I am still having trouble capturing mint luster. I need to experiment with other lighting methods. Chance   Edited by Chancellor Sutler
10/22/2013 5:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, I've seen toning like this and it is quite natural. Most likely from the obverse resting against the sulfur impregnated bag it was in for 80 years before it was put on top of the roll as you stated which further enhanced the black toning. Black is the natural color of silver sulfide. Don't dip it, it will result in a lackluster looking coin. As is, it is natural looking. I would have NO problem owning this coin and I personally like it!
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10/22/2013 6:40 pm
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Sent in a 100 of the Morgans already..18/ms63..32/ms64...33/ms65..1/63pl...3/64pl.. 7/64+..2/65+ and 2/66 and 2 ungradeable. I'm pretty excited !
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@1893s...thanks, I like it too! I'm still going to grade it.
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Pillar of the Community
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The 1881-S is the poster child for a beautiful Morgan. Even lower graded MS 81-S' luster have the halo/pop out effect. Good luck!
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm with 1893S. I have seen quite a few coins like this. Though they tended to be somewhat older coins from the 1860s and earlier. I travel around quite a bit and for some reason note many more coins with black tarnish on the West Coast, particularly California than other parts of the country.
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... for some reason note many more coins with black tarnish on the West Coast, particularly California than other parts of the country. Not really a surprise, CA has a number of air pollution problems (and used to be A LOT worse)... For example from http://www.baaqmd.gov/Divisions/Com...lutants.aspx: Hydrogen Sulfide A colorless gas with a strong "rotten egg" odor, hydrogen sulfide (H2S) can be smelled at very low concentrations. It discolors paints and tarnishes many metals. This gas is produced largely at sewage treatment plants and at oil refineries as a by-product in refining crude oil. Concentrations of H2S are limited by District regulations. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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50 rolls of 1881-S Morgans?  . You mentioned that you have 15 rolls. Were the rolls divided up among family members? Who originally saved these in the bank vault? Please post some pics! |
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Pillar of the Community
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Very nice! You lucky son of a gun. I wish I could meet with you and look at them all.
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Had I known, I'd have dissuaded you from sending these to be graded. Look at it this way: PCGS has already graded nearly 50,000 1881-S's in MS65 - it's probably the least-expensive Morgan in MS65 and MS66 (an MS66 is barely $250).
Are there 50,000 buyers for MS65 1881-S's? No. The vast majority of them are in the hands of bulk holders like yourself, with no sales outlet due to lack of demand. Were liquidation in your plans, you'd probably have done better selling them raw by the roll to speculators.
1885-O is little better; lesser populations but similar prices (which should tell you a lot about the market, when a population of 17,000 in grade is just as cheap as a pop of 50,000).
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the pictures!!  If you get 250 post you can sell them here, lol. |
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