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Ptolemey III Bronze Ae42

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 Posted 10/30/2013  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Well, I give up... I cant find a single coin to match this. It looks totally wrong to me yet everyone else says it is right...
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 10/30/2013  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Without a close up examination any opinion is .... only an opinion !

Looks good !
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 Posted 10/30/2013  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Im with metdet...the more I look at it, the worse the feeling I have about it. My Ptolemies (I have 3) are all the same shaped flan. Rounded with a flat plateau for the top like its cast into a rounded bottom. Imagine a teacake - that shape, but obviously not so 3d. The flans are caste too, so there should be evidence of a sprue on either side of the coin.

Heres a nice test...those dimples should line up, surely. One looks really off centered and one also looks quite shallow. Mine are more even than that and line up.

The eagles a bit...funky, too. The facial area looks odd but that might just be the grade.
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 Posted 10/30/2013  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
None of the 'dimples' on the 4 Ptolemy's I own line up within a few millimeters of each other (except the small 22mm). Larger sized Ptolemy's are almost always hammered and or filed around the edges so if you have evidence of a sprue I would be really suspicious.
The coin looks good ...... but looks can be deceiving !
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 Posted 10/30/2013  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list
I've seen lots of these and it looks fine. It takes skill and time to remove "fuzzy green corrosion". You deserve your profit.
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 Posted 10/31/2013  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list

Quote:
Well, I give up... I cant find a single coin to match this. It looks totally wrong to me yet everyone else says it is right...


MetDet, check the photos and info here: http://www.megagem.com/ancient/ptolemy_series.html

Looks like this one:

Ptolemey-III-Bronze-Ae42
Ptolemey-III-Bronze-Ae42

Jay's coin/picture is a little indistinct but I think that's a ChiRho between the eagle's legs. If so, it's the same type as the coin pictured above, Svoronos 964. Without the monogram it would instead be classified as Svoronos 1002.


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 Posted 10/31/2013  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Ahhh! Now it looks better! lol. How do you get your pictures so large TIF?
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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 Posted 10/31/2013  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
The above pictures are just the size of the images linked from another site. Not sure if they exceed the CCF upload limit or if linked pictures can be bigger. Might just be fewer pixels per cm-- you can have a dimensionally larger picture if you cut down the resolution or otherwise save it as a lower quality image file.

Are you having problems with that for your posts, MetDet? I might be able to give you some tips or point you to some free online photo editors which can help.
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 Posted 10/31/2013  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Any tips on the picture side would be great!
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 Posted 10/31/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
ok, I had my doubts when I first saw it...but looks like the experts agree its good.

so DANG..it is ever good! that is one of the best preserved ones I've seen!
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 Posted 11/08/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list

I did a lot of jewelry casting a few years ago and do not see any evidence of casting. No filing, flash, sprue, porosity or bubbles. There are a number of cracks around the edge of the coin where it spread when struck. See images below. Hope this helps.

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 Posted 11/08/2013  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Absolutely nothing wrong with this coin...period.! Its a beauty and completely authentic.
Nothing is out of place and I reckon this coin is worth £250 and maybe more to the right person. the fuzzy green corrosion is a copper oxide which has formed because this coin was sat next to other coins for a long time in the ground...ie. its an ex hoard coin..... thats why its so unbelievably good, they almost always are.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
Theres one in superb nick on ebay at the moment BIN £275, not identical, but you get my drift.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
This was completely covered in hard green and fuzzy green residue before cleaning......they are generally superb underneath.

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 Posted 11/08/2013  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list
I have been after a large Ptolemy bronze of this standard for a long time...............When I eventually choose the right one it will hopefully be this good, or like thisisfun's example posted which is even better than the beautiful and exceptional example posted by Jay, IMO. Absolutely breathtaking and having held many so much more pleasing in the hand too.
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