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1974 Austrian 10 Shilling Is It Magnetic

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 Posted 12/08/2013  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list

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The '74 Austrian 10 schilling is copper nickel plated nickel.
By having a pure nickel core, it should respond to a magnet.



Are you sure on this? The 2013 ANK Oesterriech Muenzkatalog just describes the coin as Cupro-Nickel. I had always thought that this meant (like Aussi and NZ cupro-nickel coins) it was simply an alloy and not a plated core( I thought the USA was the only country to use such a technique). Given the standards of production at the Austrian mint I would really doubt they would plate a coin. I just checked a 1990 5 schilling( exactly the same reported alloy) with a magnet; it does not stick!! I know that we have issues with counterfeit Euros coming from eastern regions...therefore it is possible that there were also fake schillings produced.
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12/08/2013 07:26 am
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 Posted 12/08/2013  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list

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I had always thought that this meant (like Aussi and NZ cupro-nickel coins) it was simply an alloy and not a plated core( I thought the USA was the only country to use such a technique).

Hmm, a core is different from the "sandwich" technology that is used with many US coins. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnimat (text in German) ...

(Edit) Don't have a 10 Schilling coin to try this out, but the Schön catalog (KDM) says "10 Schilling 1974-2001 - Ni, Cu75/Ni25 plattiert". That sounds as if the pieces had a pure nickel core, much like the German 2 DM and 5 DM Magnimat coins. Whether the catalog info is correct or not, I don't know. :)

Christian
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12/08/2013 3:30 pm
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 Posted 12/09/2013  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
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 Posted 12/09/2013  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I reported a copper nickel plated pure nickel core, simply because that is what I found when I referred to my 2010 edition of Krause World coins.

Otherwise, I would have to plead ignorance!

To be honest, I am not really much smarter than the average numismatist!
(Apologies to Yogi the Bear for the partial misquote! )
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 Posted 12/09/2013  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
at last some interest in my discovery I thought I have had to many beers I have 3 coins and only one sticks with the magnet as for what it is or why
this is why I need you guys
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 Posted 12/12/2013  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
has anyone tried a magnet on there coins to test I have 3 coins and only one sticks
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 Posted 12/12/2013  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list
Given my test on a five schillings and your test I would say its safe to assume your magnetic coin is probably a fake. That said as a fake it is probably collectible in its own right.....
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 Posted 12/12/2013  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
any thing that says its a fake on this coin as I have no idea

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 Posted 12/13/2013  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
in 1973 there was a trial of a nickel coin km ts4 1973 trail nickel 10 shilling could this be a left over of this trial planchet as its not cupro ni it nickel just a thought
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 Posted 12/13/2013  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
It seems that from all of the comments in this thread so far, the 2010 Krause World coins note for the Austrian 10 schillings is right.
That is, the 1974 Austrian 10 schillings at least has a magnetic core, in this case, pure nickel.

I do not have a 1974 Austrian 10 schillings to test with a magnet, so I am unable to confirm this personally.
I AM however, tempted to search through dealer's junk boxes to find one.
Perhaps some other CCF member may have one to confirm, or can beat me in the hunt to find one.
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 Posted 12/14/2013  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
thank sel I think I need outhers to test there 1974 I have 3 and only one sticks
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 Posted 12/14/2013  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
I have 2 and both stick.
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 Posted 12/14/2013  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
thank nalaberong problem solved now I will go back to working on my 1952 copper penny magnetic coin I think this might be a bit harder thanks again
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 Posted 12/17/2013  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
Strange! I have a 1974 Austrian 10-Schilling that a friend of my father's brought back from a business trip that year and which has been in my collection ever since. I've just tested it with a magnet and there was no attraction.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
thanks numisrob thought I had to chuck this one in a box of junk and did now I need to go fish it out again least it easy to find with a magnet hahahahah my 74 sticks I have no idea
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