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Order Of Malta

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 Posted 07/05/2007  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
Two years ago I looked them up
Their country was one building in Rome but they still retained the right to emit legal tender coins


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 Posted 07/05/2007  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
If you like to read
I made a mistake they have a palace and a villa both
etrateritoriall

http://www.orderofmalta.org/biblio_...p?idlingua=5
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07/05/2007 12:09 pm
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 Posted 07/05/2007  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasinva69 to your friends list
I wish I could post pictures side by side like SAP, but here's the best I can do to show my only Order of Malta coin.
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 Posted 07/05/2007  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasinva69 to your friends list
My bad. This is hoe the reverse looks right side up:
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 Posted 07/05/2007  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list
@ageka: Careful. Those "Knights of Malta" do not have anything to do with the order (S.M.O.M.) that Sap wrote about. The Schön catalog of world coins does list the SMOM pieces (denominated in Grani, Tarì and Scudi) but has a warning regarding those pseudo-orders. Of course your 1 oz gold piece remains a 1 oz gold piece no matter who had it made.

Thanks to all three of you for showing these nice pieces!

Christian
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07/05/2007 1:47 pm
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 Posted 07/05/2007  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
Chrisild
If I put the Italian Sovrano Ospedaliero ordine di Malta into the internet they go to the official site of the Knights
They are not in the Krause either

However the coin certificate says it was minted in Germany by Mayer's with the official 5000 Lire denomination what only Italy or Malta can use
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 Posted 07/05/2007  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valutarick to your friends list
In the old edition off 2001 The order of Malta is still being published in Krause Mishler. I think Krause have transported the order of Malta to the Book of Krause Unusual World Coins.
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 Posted 07/05/2007  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list
quote:
with the official 5000 Lire denomination what only Italy or Malta can use

That is another odd thing. The plural of the Italian lira was "lire", the plural of the Maltese lira is "liri". This gold piece says "liras", however - not Italian, not Maltese, and certainly not the name of a SMOM "currency" unit ...

Christian
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 Posted 07/06/2007  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Chrisild and ageka: that's one of the drawbacks of being diplomatically challenged: anyone can come along and make coins "in their name", and there's not much they can do about it. The rest of the world doesn't recognize their coins as "legal tender", so making false ones is perfectly legal.

Other unrecognised states have this same problem. For example, not all coins issued in the name of "Hutt River Province" or the "Principality of Sealand" were actually authorized by those "governments". It doesn't surprise me that the SMOM suffers the same fate.
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 Posted 07/06/2007  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list
It's some interesting facts, thank you for the info :)
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 Posted 07/06/2007  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spica to your friends list
I have three coins of order of malta, subject the Magi





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 Posted 07/06/2007  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
My coin is from the Champions of Peace series
It does not say who authorised the coin only that the
private german mint limited production to 10 000 coins
Since it has a value technically it should be a coin and not a medal
Not that I care very much because it is one of my favourites
Edited because pic did not show ( I am so clumsy )

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 Posted 07/06/2007  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
Someplace in my collection I have a proof set from one of the "Orders". St. John of Malta. I got it from the Franklin mint in the mid 1960s. It came in a box and each of 4 coins was in a plastic holder. It was one of those "limited editions". I was on a mailing list and bought a few of their items. Poor investment but interesting "Medalic Coinage". Some had mintages of 1000 coins or less. I will have to check to see if my $30 investment has made me a millionaire.
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 Posted 07/06/2007  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list
This was my first Darkside purchase. I was, and still am totally fascinated by this coin. I bought it's companion coin and the mint holder a couple of years later.

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 Posted 07/12/2007  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Angielczyk to your friends list
First of all I think you all might be interested in this site of the Sovereign Order of Malta with a small history of their coin making. http://intranet.fao.org/searchframe..._type=google

You might also be interested that in the GoldQuest Champions of Peace series is a gold coin from the Order of Malta. It is a 5000 Liras coin depicting Mother Teresa with a slogan Mother Teresa- Fight Hunger to reduce poverty. It was issued in 2001 and endorsed by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO).

Unfortunately I do not have my copy any longer but I will try to find a photo.

Harold
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