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Coin I Am Bidding On, Opinions Please

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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dwayne8625 to your friends list
The seller sold the same coin or a similar one on January 26 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-363-...047675.l2557
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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
By the way, from what TIF says, I think that she might be just a little suspicious of this one :)
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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
reported it. Wouldn't let me retract my bid though.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list

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The seller sold the same coin or a similar one on January 26 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-363-...047675.l2557


wow... that's pretty disgusting... how on Earth can he get away with that?!?
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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
That's interesting, Dwayne. It is the exact same 'coin'. Does that mean the previous buyer returned it? I wonder why the buyer didn't report it as fake?

Maybe someone should check out some of the seller's other listings to see if this is just the mistake of a seller who doesn't know better (doubtful) or just another seller who needs to be booted off.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Definitely the same coin. Let's hope you are outbid. I have bought stuff from him in the past that was OK but I am a bit wary of some of his stuff.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Kev, check the lists that I sent you on fake sellers, you will find him listed there.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
Might be good if I win it PP. Nothing like ripping off someone with the serious means to do something about it.
Seriously, why would he list it again, as genuine? He needs a lifetime ban from every auction site ever.... oh, and made to eat nothing but dry cornflakes for the next 5 years.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Did you get a personal reply from the bay or was it an automated response? Might be worth referring them to the previous sale.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
I will phone them in the morning PP and will record the conversation for posting here.
For the sake of 200 odd quid, I am quite happy to get the coin in hand for a bit of ammunition. Its a shame ccf doesn't have a person that takes charge of dealing with fake sellers like this one. I have to go to a couple of my shops tomorrow after lunch, but I will take some legal advice before going out and find out exactly what can be done, legally, to 'name and shame' such sellers.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I absolutely wouldn't pay him a penny, unless you are trying to preserve your rating on ebay. In which case accept and return it. Trouble is, it will only turn up again to sucker someone else.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list
Not sure why you can't retract your bid I thought if item was not as described you could cancel the bid.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
I don't know a lot about this type other than it's a very rare coin and the chances of one showing up on other than very high end auctions is slim to none. I'm not seeing any outward signs of casting so whoever made it did a good job. The Patina doesn't look right though. I have to agree with the rest that it's a fake. If the seller is on the up and up you should be allowed to with draw your bid. The piece should be withdrawn from the auction and all bids cancelled.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Metdet71:
Probably the easiest way to get this one withdrawn from sale is to have an independent (from a bidder) party, do it for you.
Otherwise, it could be seen that the bidder has just changed his mind on what is alleged (by the seller), to be a genuine coin.
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 Posted 02/12/2014  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list
As mentioned in the "Look at that nose" post, this seller "Saxbys-Coins" is on Forum Ancient Coins Notorious Fake Sellers List.

It is worth looking at that list if you wish to avoid bidding on sellers of fake coins auctions.
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02/12/2014 12:41 pm
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