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 Posted 02/16/2014  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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@Superdave, I want to try getting it CAC.


I think this one has a very good shot at a bean. Frankly - understanding the images are too small to be conclusive - I'm not positive it's circulated.
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 Posted 02/16/2014  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Frankly - understanding the images are too small to be conclusive - I'm not positive it's circulated.


PCGS AU 58 seems to be their way of saying probably uncirc but were not 100 percent sure.
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 Posted 02/16/2014  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You got that right. That's how I see "AU58" as well - it's unlikely that a coin would have circulated for a month and then been pulled from use to be held for the next 100+ years. You want to hold the coin, you get it brand-new and hold it.

"AU58" is a sort of copout (not necessarily a pejorative) to cover coins which do not present incontrovertible technical evidence that they've never circulated. This could be as much a factor of strike as anything else, and IMO usually is. To my mind, the TPG's don't spend enough time evaluating strike in context as they ought.
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 Posted 02/16/2014  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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"AU58" is a sort of copout (not necessarily a pejorative) to cover coins which do not present incontrovertible technical evidence that they've never circulated. This could be as much a factor of strike as anything else, and IMO usually is. To my mind, the TPG's don't spend enough time evaluating strike in context as they ought.


Copout seems like the right word, its definitely the safe call to make. Theres some you look at and think if thats AU there must only be a handful of MS coins. Questionable color is the copout that annoys me more though.

On the bright side it means you can get some really nice coins cheaper. A lot seems to be nicer than low MS coins. I'm curious if the market as a whole will figure that out and well start seeing 58 prices be higher than say 61s.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
Whenever I get it, I'll take HD pictures that WILL show anything on the coin.
So we'll see if it has wear. I'm guessing the hair is a touch worn and that's what makes it AU-58.
Also, any light scratches on the slab can be fixed by me.
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 Posted 02/17/2014  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list
I love this coin. I think you will be most pleased with it. It appears it received an AU58 for light rubbing that discolored from the brown on the hair above the eye, on the bust, and the high point hair curl, even if it is ever so slight. I eagerly await your own photos once you receive it!
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 Posted 02/20/2014  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
Well, you can see the light wear from my photo's. Please take note that I used sunlight so any marks stand right out.

Any by the way, just got it today :)

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 Posted 02/20/2014  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I'm less sure that it'll bean, given these (excellent) images.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
@Superdave, same thing I said. Well I bought it because I wanted a rare coin.
The luster wasn't shown in the sunlight picture. That's what you get when you spent two minutes taking the pictures...
You don't need to lie, they're junk, lol.


Here's under my light and 5 minutes of trying to get the right shots:
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 Posted 02/20/2014  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EFLargeCents to your friends list
I like this one. Wish it was in my set!
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 Posted 02/20/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
@Largecents, thanks, I like it too but just that mark on the back isn't nice.

So not many people comment on it. I was wondering if is was worth the 327 I spent. The mark on the back under the F in half really stands out.
I was thinking of returning it because the seller used junky pictures to hide it.
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 Posted 02/20/2014  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
I think it's a nice coin solotime. I did the mark under the F you mention, but I didn't pick it up right away.

I don't know value-wise what a coin like this is worth, so I won't comment on the price you paid.

-MV
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 Posted 02/20/2014  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
"Also, any light scratches on the slab can be fixed by me."

I sure could use some info about how to do that successfully...
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 Posted 02/20/2014  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I sure could use some info about how to do that successfully...


Headlight cleaner or this stuff called NOVUS actually works really well too. But be prepared to have to hand buff it for a while if its bad. Also put just a dab on the cloth instead of slathering it on the slab and then what you start wiping realize you just put 10 times to much.

The worse it is the more times youll have to do it but it can make a noticeable difference.

Or if youre a PCGS member and theyre PCGS slabs you could just take advantage of their current 5 dollar reholder special and skip all the buffing
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 Posted 02/21/2014  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list
@Bluegrass, Not sure how Basebal does his but I use a headlight restorer. It will shine the slab and fill in any scratches. I forgot to say, the slab did in fact have scratches on the front. One was a deep one and worried me.

You must use something like 100% cotton so it won't scratch the slab up!

Here's the stuff I bought
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Meguiar-s...ish/16550253

Just apply some on the slab rub it around till it starts drying up then wipe it off with a clean part of the cloth.
Works fine every time for me. Just somethings you can't remove because it's damaged so bad.
If the first try din't work, go for a second round. You should have seen the Barber dime slab I restored. It was so bad I didn't think it would work.
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