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Phoenicia, Sidon 1/8 Shekel

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 Posted 04/09/2014  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Thanks TIF

It was the seller's information that said it was 1/8th and it comes with an old typed card that says it is an 1/8th. I think you are all correct saying that it is 1/116th. I received it this morning. It weighs in at 0.70g and is about 9mm.

I will try and post photos later, there appears to be something to the left of the left tower and also something in the sky top right of the left tower. The reverse is a bit difficult to see properly, but it is the bowman.
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 Posted 04/09/2014  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
My pics plus the two closest I can find. I don't think mine can be described as VF considering the reverse! Maybe it will clean up a little.

Phoenicia,-Sidon-1/8-Shekel

Phoenicia,-Sidon-1/8-Shekel

Phoenicia,-Sidon-1/8-Shekel
CNG 88, Lot: 505. Estimate $300.
Sold for $320. This amount does not include the buyer's fee.

PHOENICIA, Sidon. temp. Baalshillem (Sakton) I-Ba'ana. Circa 425-401 BC. AR Sixteenth Shekel (7mm, 0.69 g, 11h). Phoenician pentekonter sailing left; city wall in background; below, lion advancing left / King of Persia standing right, drawing bow, quiver over shoulder; behind, incuse head of satyr left; before, incuse head of goat right. E&E-S 362-448; Betlyon 10; Rouvier 1093; HGC 10, 230. VF, find patina. Rare.





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 Posted 04/09/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list
Well after looking back on the ones I numbered, the sites changed the coins positions . Any chance of a view from further afield aswell, from your camera? And you say about 9mm?

http://www.coinarchives.com/a/resul...earch=towers
Your one or the current number 14 which is 9mm are good matches. The one thing is, are the two marks on the obverse signifying something?

That has to be the oldest coin I've seen on here, wow!
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04/09/2014 3:07 pm
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 Posted 04/09/2014  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
The two "things" on the obverse can be seen in the first picture I posted. They might just be blobs!
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 Posted 12/11/2014  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I got around to this coin this morning, trying to improve on the photos. What I see has made me uneasy. This is my supposedly oldest coin and I am very fond of it, now I am wondering whether it is a fake. Opinions please?

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 Posted 12/12/2014  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list

P.P. I really do like this coin. I have never seen anything like it.

I hope that someone can authenticate it for you. Good Luck.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I like it too. Very worried about the second pictures that I took. The coin is very dirty and the dirt is fairly loose. I might chuck it in some warm oil for a while. The silver is very soft. I can't use a blade.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
Where is a new picture of the reverse?

Somehow I doubt it would be a modern fake - the counterfeiters rather go for the larger pieces if there is a a similar group of coins.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Sorry Medieval. Saw the obverse and went and hid under the bed clothes biting the pillow. Here are two pics of the reverse, different camera settings. It is very mangled.

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 Posted 12/12/2014  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
As said, I doubt it would be a modern fake but it might be a contemporary one (based on your comment on the softness of the silver) but you better show it to a knowledgeable coin dealer in hand when you get the next chance. Based on the pictures alone it would be difficult to determine.
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 Posted 12/12/2014  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Thanks Medieval. No coin experts anywhere near me. A contemporary fake is preferable to a modern one. I will go ahead with the warm oil and see what happens. I don't think that the coin is worth much at all, I just like it.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PhoenicianX to your friends list
I think it's definitely real!
Congrats on the coin pish! I've got two 9mm Phoenician coins as well!
I'm in love with everything Phoenician! Hence my name hahah...
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12/15/2014 12:44 am
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 Posted 12/15/2014  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Excellent coin. I would like to see the reshoot of the Figure side.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
Having difficulty with this one. Here is the latest rendering, I am going to have to do it again when I get time.
http://www.tantaluscoins.com/coins/108758.php
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