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Possible Error On 100$ Polymer Banknote

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 Posted 05/01/2014  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list


The note's been tampered with.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  06:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list
Does anyone else have a different opinion ? I know it could be reproduced with some chemicals, probably. But could something like this happen during the printing process and if so, how ?
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 Posted 05/25/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
I just tried 100%-acetone on a five and it did nothing. Every different shade of color comes from a separate plate, I think its an error. If it was that easy to turn a bill into an error bill there would be a flood of error bills for sale.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list
You can post the pictures to the "Canadian Paper Money Forum" the site has many error specialists.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list

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I just tried 100%-acetone on a five and it did nothing. Every different shade of color comes from a separate plate, I think its an error. If it was that easy to turn a bill into an error bill there would be a flood of error bills for sale.


Thank you for that. I didn't know it had no effect. I'll hold on to it for now and try to get more info.


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You can post the pictures to the "Canadian Paper Money Forum" the site has many error specialists.


Already done that, I'm not getting too many responses. Guess I'll wait.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add persistnt to your friends list
How did you get registered on PaperMoneyF...?My e-mal doesn't work...And I thought here would be as good for EXPERTS to look at that 100.oo..Is it tampered with ?or what?
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How did you get registered on PaperMoneyF...?My e-mal doesn'tork...

I think you need an email from an Internet service provider in order to register.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Don't go by what I said, I only put a corner of it in acetone for less then 5 minutes then I soaked a paper towel and rubbed it hard on the same corner of the bill. TRY IT YOURSELF. I'm certainly no expert but I have printed on plastics (not polymers) in a large factory many years ago. Plastics had to electrically treated in order for the ink to adhere properly. You asked for other opinions and thats mine.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
you are correct, the acetone just takes off the serial numbers, I assumed it would do the same with the rest of the printing.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
I bumped it up a notch and tried Easy Off oven cleaner which is corrosive but still nothing.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Your right its easy to remove the serial number, isn't that stupid, anyone can add radar numbers and poof see my cool radar note or replacement note or what have you. Everybody should be aware of this.

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Remove both or even one serial number and POOF you have an instant error bill. This really irritates me, that along with all the counterfeit stuff, I have to ask - man whats with people?
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 Posted 05/26/2014  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prefix-kix to your friends list

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could something like this happen during the printing process

Sure it's called a Trap Error.
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 Posted 06/03/2014  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list
This is an interesting note.

I know of one collector who had actually removed ink from the polymer banknotes using chemicals.

However it should be remembered that unlike the journey series where only the earlier versions had varnish applied to it - all polymers have varnish applied to it on both sides.

By careful examination under a high powered loop or a microscope it is possible to determine if the ink layer that you are seeing is under the varnish or above.

If it under the varnish then it is likely caused during production.

This could also be falsely created by either smudging with some chemicals or by applying additional ink. Although higher resolution pictures could provide more detail it does not seem like ink has been removed. It looks lime more ink has been applied.

Is it possible that more ink could have been applied during production. I believe that if during the Intaglio application the roller was not cleaned properly there would be some excess ink left and it could smear off onto the sides.

So there is a possibility that this may be caused during production as most of the additional ink is around the Intaglio portion other than the top right portion just below the 100 counter.

If you are in GTA area and would be available to show this note I could look under a microscope and give you some ideas.

I study note design and small variations in them and very interested in your note (whether it is a production related thing or not)

As to its value - that's another matter on which I have no opinion.
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 Posted 06/06/2014  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list
Thanks everyone for your help on trying to figure out whether this error is legitimate or not. Unfortunately, because I cannot do with 100$ less in my budget right now, I have to put the note up for sale right now even though there is no certainty that this is an error.
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 Posted 06/17/2014  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list
I changed my mind. I will hold on to it until I can confirm whether it is an error or not. Is there anyone in the greater Montreal area who can identify errors?
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