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 Posted 08/05/2007  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
ok heres my latest try. I cant get the wheat heads to focus. These just arent good enough! any tips?

im shooting at
iso 80 (all the pictures seem to be grainy at anything higher than 200.)
exposure 1/40
f3.5

custom white balance about 11 inches away with a 60w ott lite and a 13 watt one... ( I need to get 2 things that are similar.



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 Posted 08/05/2007  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Are you on a tripod or some other stable stand? Are you using a timed shutter, so you're not touching the camera when the shutter snaps? Also, try tightening the aperture a little; f/3.5 might not be giving you enough depth of field to keep the whole coin in focus. That will necessitate a longer exposure - if you go to f/4.0, change from 1/40 to maybe 1/15 to get the same brightness. Chances are, if you're on a tripod and timed shutter, the longer exposure won't hurt.
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 Posted 08/05/2007  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list
Outstanding shots SuperDave. And Zach those shots are great too.

I like to shoot coins at pretty high f ratios (high numeric value) like F8 as the depth of field with little coins really needs the lens to be stopped down more. I also like to use ISO 100/200 as my camera goes noisy over that. It will result in a slower shutter speed, but to compensate I use the self timer so the camera doesn't get bumped. Of course a tripod / copy stand is essential. Some exposures actually run into seconds.
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 Posted 08/05/2007  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
Ok heres my new try. I still cant focus on the tops of the wheat heads and theyre still not even close to superdaves.. Also on my camera there is a color option. On this one I used the vidid setting. Also superdave what kind of settings did you use on your s2 for lincoln cents? Your pics are toooooo goood.

Settings

iso 400
exposure 1/200
aperture f4.0
custom white balace
vidid colors
macro

http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?pos=-7793

http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?pos=-7792
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 Posted 08/05/2007  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
Now those are very close. I'm not sure of the setting change needed, but it just needs to be a touch lighter. Well done, and thanks for posting the settings used.
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 Posted 08/05/2007  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
quote:
Also superdave what kind of settings did you use on your s2 for lincoln cents?


Those shots weren't done with my S2, zacharycash. They were done with my 350D, and the lens itself cost more than an S2.

Your second set is nice - they're clear enough to grade from, although the color is a little, well, vivid.

The lighting is good; any adjustments you make from here will be moving the light(s) on the order of an inch at a time. If you're on a white background, the color is too heavily weighted in the yellow.

Try an identical shot, only lose the Vivid, and use ISO 200 and 1/100 exposure. See if that makes any difference in the clarity, just in case the higher ISO is introducing noise.
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 Posted 08/05/2007  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
Ok these are by far the best ive taken yet.
Superdave. you are a genius.

Anything else you think I could do to improve them?

settings
iso 200
exposure 1/100
aperture f4.0
custom white balace
macro.

http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?pos=-7795
http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?pos=-7794

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 Posted 08/05/2007  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list
You would be hard pressed to beat those. F4 is still pretty wide. What are they like at 1/50 f5.6 or 1/25 f8?
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 Posted 08/05/2007  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
not as clear
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 Posted 08/07/2007  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
quote:
The selected album/file does not exist !

Zach, where did the pics go?
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 Posted 08/08/2007  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zacharycash to your friends list
ill put em back up in the morning... I think I took em off on accident... I dunno
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 Posted 08/08/2007  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greyhav to your friends list
So why do people choose wide apertures?

I would have thought to use the smallest aperture I can, to maximize the depth of field. My digital camera has a macro setting, which let's me set it on a table-top tripod just 6 inches from the coin, but that gives a very shallow focal plane, to the point that if the coin is not exactly parallel to the ccd chip, some of it is not in focus. So just using a small aperture, longer shutter speed fixes that.

Also, from my 35 mm days, most lens distortions and imperfections are at the outer edges of the lens. So I tend not to use the outer edges, by stopping down a little bit. Granted, this may not be a problem with the smaller lenses used for digitals, since smaller lenses are easier to make.
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 Posted 12/10/2007  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 12/11/2007  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fauxtog to your friends list
Wow semi dead thread but.
Aperature
well all the way to f 8 isn't a must but wide open is likely to not carry the focus if you are at an angle and if you camera is off a bit wide open will never be there. In the dark room we use to close the aperature down 2 notches it was well known that most lenses focus the best a couple clicks from wide open. with todays computer designed lenses I don't know if thats still true, but would assume so.

shutter speeds; even with a tripod if you have a camera that flips it's mirror before exposing ie any SLR you will get camera shake. find out if you can lock the mirror up before triggering the shutter and use a remote shutter release.
I am finding that lighting is very interesting with coins. If you have a mirror like proof you want to show the wonderfully smooth reflection but at the same time you need to show the depth of the die strike. I recently was shooting a Morgan silver dollar that refused to co operate. I would look at it and it was mirror like (not proof like but a good shine) with nice deep details. I would shoot it and the details looked flat. so I went for the depth of the strike and the coin looked dark. it was a bugger. I guess I'll try it again later with the beam spliter (axial) light

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 Posted 12/13/2007  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list
Please input on my photography... I need help to capture the luster and true color of the coins. Here are those coins - waiting for your grading too:
https://goccf.com/t/22632

All comments are welcome.
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