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Yes, definitely a counterfeit. Probably contemporary. Nice noD, Can you tell me a bit more about how you can tell? Edited by Bababooey
08/25/2014 2:36 pm
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Looks like a contemporary counterfeit.
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is just crude over all....anyone know if it is a listed Davignon variety.
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http://www.cccbhcc.com/Try e-mailing them. I have not bought the book because most all my CBH are slabbed. Also if you don't get any response, you can also post on Collectors Society Message Board for help.
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Can you tell me a bit more about how you can tell? The first things I noticed was: The coin's perspective relationships are off, i.e., the size of the portrait to the overall size of the coin, and the placement of the eagle on the reverse (too far left). The obverse stars are crude and misshapen. The reverse letters are also crude (note the A in STATES). The I to T relationship is WAY off of any 1828 Overton. My first thought was an undersized planchet, (to account for the size differentials) but it's obvious now that the coin is not genuine. Sorry. A Square Base 2 1828 CBH, with close to same wear, to compare:   Edited by Moe145
08/25/2014 5:08 pm
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noD, Can you tell me a bit more about how you can tell?
The letters and numbers are downright cartoonish. A fake that poor wouldn't pass anyone today, yet this coin managed to acquire circulation wear. It went through a lot of hands, at fifty cents a shot. A known pattern from those days - people collect these. |
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Yes, very collectable. Very desirable IMO.
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Sorry. No problem, and thank for the info. I did not buy this coin, it was given to me. I find it fascinating that it is not 'real' yet probably quite old/ has some value anyways. I'm enjoying learning about the series. I'll try to email the folks at the website http://www.cccbhcc.com/, to see if they know what it is. It was bought at auction in the late 70s or early 80s before third party grading was common. I have some more CBHs which i'll have to post now! I think they are real, and their condition is better, but we'll see. |
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Enjoying this story of our experts authenticating a contemporary counterfeit ... looking forward to an update from the OP.
David
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Consider Early Half Dollar Die Varieties 1794-1836 3rd Edition by Al C. Overton. I don't know what they go for these days, but it is an excellent reference source.
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This one is on sale at the Collectors Universe Message Board for $75 or best offer. D-1A   |
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Consider Early Half Dollar Die Varieties 1794-1836 3rd Edition by Al C. Overton. I don't know what they go for these days, but it is an excellent reference source.
You can find them on ebay pretty easily for $70-80. Not sure if that's the cheapest source, but there are always several sellers selling them. |
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John: so the picture above is a contemporary counterfeit as well?
Nickelsearcher: I'll post the response I still need to email off the photos
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