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1000 And 1 Nights - Harun Al-Rashid

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 Posted 10/23/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
I'll have a try at deciphering it later, when I'm back home.
The date section will look like '*** 9 *** 9 ***' = 100 & tenth & ones (for the numbers one has to switch to 'left to right' reading).
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 Posted 10/23/2014  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Very nice coin Nate, Added another to my list of ones I have to get.
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 Posted 10/23/2014  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list

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I blame him for taking advantage in my time of weakness and showing something historic, interesting and awesome when I have the 'bay window open.
Good, good... let the overbuying flow through you

Definitely impressed by it. I would certainly welcome something like that into my little Islamic collection.
Any chance you might want to divulge what you spent on this silvery gem?

Unfortunately I don't have a coin of Charlemagne to complement your Al-Rashid, but I do have a coins of Charlemagne's son Louis, who had a similar friendly relationship with Al-Rashid's son, Al-Mamun, when both ruled their respective domains.

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 Posted 10/23/2014  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
I am a little rusty, haven't deciphered Islamic coins for some time - you have no right to kill me if I got it wrong

See 'jcmworld's comment:
Seems I got it wrong, couldn't make it out on the obverse.
Need to reboot my brain.
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10/24/2014 01:58 am
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 Posted 10/23/2014  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
At this point I feel good we came to see the same date. Thanks bro for breakdown. Very appreciated.
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 Posted 10/23/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Gorgeous coin VK. I lo e it and want it. OH and $35.
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 Posted 10/23/2014  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list
I feel utterly frustrated. Despite making constant back and forth comparisons between that Arabic number chart and your coin, I am unable to draw the parallel. For one thing I am thrown by the long horizontal lines, but even putting those aside I cannot see it. I have a coin which is (apparently) 188AH and I am having precisely the same problem. 😤😤😤
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 Posted 10/24/2014  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list
Nate, your obverse is on the right. I see Madinat al Salaam, 193.
Islamic H (haw) below reverse.
A-219.9, SICA 1703.

What's in that marked up in that picture above is incorrect. The mint/date formula is not on the reverse.
Obv: "bism'Allah (dinar/dirham/fals) durib'a (mint name) sana (year- 1's, 10's, 100's separated by the word "b")". - "By the grace of God this dirham was created at Madinat al Salaam in the year three and ninety and one hundred."
193 is written as "three and ninety and one hundred" in words.
Kalima in center.

A hoard of about 30,000 appeared in the 80's. I have one, too, different dies though.
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 Posted 10/24/2014  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list
Jcmworld...first....thank you for relieving me of my fool's errand in trying to compare the Arabic number chart to the wrong section of Ancientnoob's coin. Just ignore the following if it is a bit of an imposition, but it would help me a great deal if you were able to do a similar image to the misleading one, but now with the date correctly highlighted. I am still struggling. If not, perhaps you could just tell me at what 'O' clock it appears on the coin?
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 Posted 10/24/2014  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
WOW. JCM great work! Awesome graphic. I am glad you were able to school us a little. This turned out to be an interesting and very educational thread thanks to everyone's contributions.
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 Posted 10/24/2014  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list
JCM I cannot thank you enough. That is exactly what I needed to help me get things clear. Thank you! '''
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 Posted 10/26/2014  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list
No problem.
For a handy primer O. Codringdon's "Manual of Musalman Numismatics" is out there for free on google books. It was published back in the 1880's or thereabouts but it is an excellent introduction. The BMC Islamic is also excellent - it has all of the legends written out, and it's also in the public domain so you can fine a free e-version.
I'm just happy that there is some interest in Islamic coins out there.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
the script on these coins is very pretty...yeah, I'm going to have to get one also. good call AN.
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 Posted 10/27/2014  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list
I have doubles on some of the more common dates/mints for Abbasid dirhams.
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