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Pronunciation of names is in some regard a personal thing. For many names it is quite clear but others allow various choices. Wonder how the members of his family pronounce the name. Personally I would pronounce it the original way, which is straight forward because it is a German name - but the 'ch' poses some difficulties for native English speakers.
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The 'ch' should be pronounced as in loch. (Not lock)!
A similar sound to clearing the back of one's throat.
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Unfortunately, the 'howtopronounce' website above, ironically, pronounces it incorrectly!
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I think you have to ask a German about the proper pronunciation.
I pronounce it as go-brekht, stress on the second syllable.
I've kinda taught myself how to read IPA recently, I'll put it as /goː.'brext/ but I could be wrong. I'm not even sure which o to put in there.
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That 'forvo' one is correct! lol
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I used to have thought of it as "Gorbrechet" Good thing I have never said that out loud. Funny how I tend to add in random syllables.
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The 'ch' should be pronounced as in loch. (Not lock)!
A similar sound to clearing the back of one's throat. That only applies if the 'ch' follows after A,O,U or AU. That is the 'harsh' pronunciation of the 'ch'. The 'soft' pronunciation (after e,i,ae,oe,ue,aeu,eu,ei etc) is similar to the Greek letter Chi, tongue to the top of the throat and air pressed through. Not to forget that in German 'e' is pronounced as in 'men' or 'wreck' and the 'i' like the vowel in 'see','mean', etc. Postscript: That applies to 'High German', there are some southern German dialects where people pronounce it always 'harsh'. Edited by Medieval
12/01/2014 10:43 pm
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I find it quite fascinating how one language, spoken in one country, can have different dialects even though the areas aren't separated.
Loch is pronounced with an /x/ in IPA. this exists in Indonesian in khas and akhir.
Chi is /kʰ/, according to Wikipedia. this exists in Mandarin as ㄎ (pinyin k). I've long forgotten how to read bopomofo, so I'll stick to pinyin.
/kʰ/ is sounds very similar, but slightly softer, less harsh, and lets more air through then /x/
Not sure if the Wikipedia IPA chart actually applies to me, my speaking is a little non-standard ("standard" is the "flat" Jakarta accent) as I speak both Indonesian and Mandarin in a Makassarese accent. Any Sulawesian accent sounds rather harsh compared to accents in Java.
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I find it quite fascinating how one language, spoken in one country, can have different dialects even though the areas aren't separated. It actually doesn't even require a country, in my home town there are slightly different dialects in the different suburbs. And in larger cities there can be quite a substantial difference, just look at Cockney in London. |
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I pronounce it GO-brecht, with a European "o" and the "ch" of "loch".
This is slightly incorrect apparently.
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I pronounce it "ex-Pen-sive."
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Great pronunciation, jspned!
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Posted 12/01/2014 9:42 pm
