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2004 2 Dollar Coin

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 Posted 12/19/2014  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list
Electrolysis method fake---dead giveaway is the micro bumps.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Xanonite to your friends list
Wow! Got this one from fresh bank roll. Thanks everyone for the replies! Good way to find out what to look for in a fake. Oh, and happy holidays, merry christmas, happy festivus!
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 Posted 01/02/2015  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list
Wow I love it! very interesting! notice the inner brass and the nickel ring connection and the lettering the rim and the tiny dots. Excellent example, no doubt a keeper.
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 Posted 01/02/2015  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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Excellent example, no doubt a keeper.


Except... keeping this is illegal in Canada.

https://goccf.com/t/146468
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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Is it true if the words "fake or replica" are counter stamped on the coin, that it would then be legal?
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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
In the US, on a US coin, then yes - as part of the Hobby Act. In Canada, you can stamp whatever you want on it, it will always be illegal, unless you remove the entire word "TWO DOLLARS"...
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 Posted 01/02/2015  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
Stamp a scrub off the and stamp a 0 on top of it so that it reads "0 Dollars"

So, if you sand off or do whatever to remove the writing "2 dollars" while leaving everything else intact, then it is legal to own?

Or if someone made a toonie-like thing but it says "no dollars" or something like that, it's not illegal?
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01/02/2015 11:28 pm
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 Posted 01/03/2015  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list
I thin you can slab them now as an example or educational but why waste the money.

http://www.icgcoin.com/about/the-ho...rfeit-coins/
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 Posted 01/03/2015  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
SPP-
This 48 fake dollar was on ebay for sale and was stamped
"COPY". I bid on it but lost out. If what your saying is correct and I had won the bid, then it would have been illegal for me to own it? This is not the only one that the seller had for sale.

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 Posted 01/03/2015  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Most people here know "Nickelsguy" is the fake expert frustratingly fighting crime on ebay and such for years now (and hats off to you for that Mikey), but I read in one of his articles about the huge collection of fakes he has. How does that work, special license or something?

@ JimmyD can you give us a link to this seller?
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 Posted 01/03/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list
The single string of pearls on the fake toonie is a dead give away.
All fakes should be cut in half and thrown away lest they make
their way back into the system. If they can do it for contraband
firearms then they can do it for coins. Many fakes available.
Justice system should be doing more on this.
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01/03/2015 09:55 am
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 Posted 01/03/2015  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
This is the link.
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The seller was quite open about it being a fake as he stated it was a brass cast imitation in his description.
If it was illegal to sell, I'm sure he was not aware of it.
Guess I'm glad I didn't win the bid.
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 Posted 01/04/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
It is illegal to own a counterfeit coin in Canada. Since it is illegal to own any coin that even RESEMBLES a Canadian coin (they are counterfeit), SPP is incorrect in saying remove the 2 dollars. They are still counterfeit.
As to my collection of counterfeit Canadian coins. I have fulfilled the requirements of Canadian Law to own them. An awful lot of hoops were jumped through and visits from police.
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 Posted 01/04/2015  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I stand corrected... basically, all the ones I have tested, are in a bag destined for the RCMP Forensic lab, here in Ottawa.
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 Posted 01/04/2015  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
I find the detailed forensic work you have done in this field intriguing and the articles Ive read fascinating.
Sounds like its been a real tough grind and its going to remain tough for a while the way these fakes are flying out of China. Noble venture..hats off to you MM
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