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I would love to have this coin in my collection.
It may take me years ... It's already been years of  But I agree, tracing difficult coins is (for me) more fun than always buying fully identified ones. |
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I will work on this in the morning. The legend is Greek but probably blundered I have too look closer. As Chris pointed out the legend is large and the construction of the Greek letterse look Eastern. If the coin is silver that rules out Kushan, at 20mm it's probably safe to place it in the 1st cent. BC - 1st cent. AD. Smells like a Scythian to me.
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Thanks everyone who looked, especially 'chrsmat71' and 'Ancientnoob' for the suggestions.
And yes 'Ancientnoob', I hope that you stumble across something which might help.
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I have come to the conclusion the flan is distorted from by the counter mark and would probably have a slightly smaller diameter originally, maybe 15-18 mm. I am leaning towards a billon drachm of Strato II (25 BC- AD 10), or a local imitation of such. Based on the construction of the legend, it has to fit between the end of the Indo-Greeks and Indo-Parthians and the rise of the Scythian dynasty before or during the era of Azes.
The obverse doesn't appear to be wearing any headress/crown but rather a diadem, leaning towards Indo-Greek. This would work with the reverse that appears to have a standing figure "Pallas" on the reverse. This is an intriguing coin indeed I plan to research this a bit further as time permits. Right now I must run and stand by the window and wait for the mail man.
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I can't shake the feeling that chrsmat is on the right trail and that it is some issue from the Bosphorus. I dug through wildwinds and am digging through coinarchives and can't find a match for the legend, but some Roman provincials from that area are stylistically similar. For example, check out this one: http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotvi...7d038ec77ca6It's not that specific coin because the legend doesn't match and the weight probably doesn't either, but the style looks very similar to me, and provincials are relatively poorly documented anyway so it might just not be in either of the sources I've looked through. |
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Had a look at Bosporus 'chrsmat71' but couldn't make a connection.
@ 'Ancientnoob', the flan looks certainly flattened - wondering if it was not overstruck with the head and then on top countermarked later. The lettering is quite squarish, thank you for your good intentions to check your eastern references out. If it helps I an make more detailed scans of the legend.
But don't forget to enjoy the holiday, whichever you celebrate.
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 Wow, if it's not that exact type then it is certainly very very close - thanks. Perhaps slightly different legend on the host coin but the countermark matches perfectly. |
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Yeah, just doing some searching and stumbled upon it.
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Now all I need is 'Ancientnoob' to have a reference nailing down the inscription. But it definitely has an attribution to time and region now. Actually yesterday came across a coin which allowed me to nail down another one. Ever seen a reverse image like that:  If not, where do you think does it belong? |
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I see enough legend on the left side of your coin to be reasonably sure that it does indeed say Raggodeme.
No idea who that person is though (all references I see are to coins, though it's apparently a female).
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Statue of Artemis reverse? Caria?
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Statue of Artemis reverse? Caria? Not Artemis but Aphrodite, with Caria/Karia you are right. Here is the coin with both sides:   Drachm from Tabae in early imperial times - BMC#20(obv)/17(rev) Had looked at Tabae before but couldn't make sense of the reverse but when I saw a coin yesterday it made sense. Went into the text of BMC and nailed it down (the plates of the copy of BMC on the net are unfortunately badly copied). |
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I see enough legend on the left side of your coin to be reasonably sure that it does indeed say Raggodeme. Knowing what to look for found a clearer example without countermark on the net -> http://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?a...&lot=1197427 That makes clear that the countermark was applied on the right image there (can see the palm branch on mine). And while the two starting chars are missing on mine, it is the same legend apart from the 'K', which is missing on mine. After a closer look, the bottom of my right image is at 1:30 o'clock. Edited by Medieval
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