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 Posted 12/26/2014  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
I see no green spots. What makes you suspect it might have BD?
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12/26/2014 12:45 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2014  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
Oh just a primordial fear with Roman copper and bronze coins.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
It's a nice looking coin, BD free.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Excellent style and beautiful patination. It has every indication that a bit o' careful conservation would improve it somewhat. Not too much cleaning ! Just a bit to even out the fields.
I notice you have a Rome mint attribution. Yours or sellers ?
The coin looks amazingly similar to semi cleaned ancients sold out of Spain by 'Lucernae'.
If that is the source I would bet money it is a 'Hispania' issue. The provincial mints in Spain were closed under Claudius and the few that remained open issued Imperial coinage. The portrait while first rate has a few charecteristics I associate with Spain. I could be wrong ....... but I have my suspicions
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 Posted 12/26/2014  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Not BD, just very hard to remove encrustation., that may have fused into the surface of the coin.

It is coins that present, such as this one does, that some may be tempted to tool off some of that hard encrustation, especially around the lettering.

I know I don't the professional museum skill to do this.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
No tools ! Tools are for extreme cases and this coin is anything but !
A bath in acetone to remove any soluble oils and then repeated baths in DW should soften the whitish surfaces.
A quick brass brushing or a toothbrush will do the rest.

If needed a bamboo skewer can be used to rub crevasses.
Metal tools are for brave souls
I am a natural born chicken !
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
@ FR Yes that is the sellers attribution. Just for curiosity what are some characteristics that coins minted in Hispania have compared to Rome or Lugdunum.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
The first thing I notice is the lower tip of the bust.
It is common for Hispania issues to run right off the flan.
Two is the 'good hair' day that Claudius is showing ! For some reason the Spain coins seem to have excellent styling of the hair
(A cultural anomaly perhaps ?)
Lastly most Rome issues (not all) seem to portray Claudius as he actually was. A not very good looking fellow who drooled on himself. This was the result of a series of misfortunes that he suffered in childhood. He got the reputation of being an idiot because he actually looked like one not because he was one !
The Spanish coins often have a very handsome fellow looking much more like his "hero" brother Germanicus.
It may be a Rome issue. But I am inclined to think not.

If I were in the market for a Claudius I would give it some serious consideration.
What is the ask ?
$100 would be okay by me.
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12/26/2014 5:31 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
Very Interesting. Yes Claudius was a bit of a train wreck, his own grandmother( Livia) hired a mule driver to "tutor" him and set him straight.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
I just noticed the description !

GREEN

I like it !
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
The seller is asking well under $100.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
You better grab it before I find it !
Some of the best deals I have found have been around Christmas. This is a steal at that price. Tomorrow morning I will be sniffing about myself.

July is also a great time to buy ! While everyone is at the beach I have gotten more than a few steals.
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12/26/2014 5:42 pm
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 Posted 12/26/2014  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
A Julio-Claudian As in near VF with a green patina for well under $100.

I don't know what else to ask Santa for ?
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 Posted 12/26/2014  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
Too late FR , just got if for $73. . I am still amazed that you were able to identify the seller and country of origin just by glancing at the coin. Hats off to you
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 Posted 12/26/2014  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Antonio is a wonderful fellow. I promise you won't regret that purchase !
I sometimes amaze myself !
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