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1921 Defective Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 01/02/2015  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brausaak to your friends list
I was not able to get better pictures to the are, but I was told that it was a "grease filled dye" and what is unusual is that because of the large size of the coin, a defect like this is not usual and it is a pretty big area of the coin. It obliterated the top of Liberty's head and "URI" from the PLURIBUS.
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 Posted 01/02/2015  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
This '21 was Struck Through Grease obverse & reverse and yielded a small premium. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-Morgan...047675.l2557

Your example is not something you can retire from but it's sure an interesting Morgan.
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 Posted 01/02/2015  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list
How much value does a grease filled dye usually add to any coinage, or does it vary based on what the coin is?
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 Posted 01/02/2015  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Not to be pedantic, but it's "die."

Grease fills aren't for everyone. Some consider them disfiguring and won't buy. Others will, and value generally goes up as the area covered gets greater. Specific cases like missing mint marks have their appeal, as well.
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 Posted 01/03/2015  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
One of the biggest problems with Grease Filled Die's as well as Retained Cud and Cud coins is that they never have a full strike and the grading companies kill off the grade even when they are nice. You see this also with tilted collar strikes as well.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
from that picture it looks like PMD.

Also, as noted: it is die not dye.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brausaak to your friends list
Thank you for your reply and correction! English in not my first language and I apreciate people correcting me in a respecfull way so I don't keep making the same mistakes over and over without even knowing! :-)
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 Posted 01/12/2015  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
You'll find your coin to be quite interesting to some. Morgans are a popular issue, and therefore have a sizable following of error fans.

Like me.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Hey superdave, in your above reply you mentioned missing mint marks from die fills. How are such error coins distinguished from simple p mints?
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 Posted 01/14/2015  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
This is a perfect example of a missing mint make Morgan dollar. http://www.vamworld.com/1921-S+VAM-6B There are die markers that tie this back to the die/ die state with mint mark. I just picked up a VAM6A that has the obverse die gouge.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
I would not be surprised if there are filled-mint mark Morgans masquerading as Philly coins as we speak. We can nail down die progressions as Dave mentioned, but somebody has to get lucky to make the connection and no doubt there are undiscovered ones.

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 Posted 01/15/2015  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Perfect. I have a raw 1889 "p" that is worn but looks like a cartwheel type Greaser even with its wear (f-vf grade). Funny thing is, the heaviest wear/grease area is the DO of dollar & above it I can see 2 shadow cc letters slightly showing more than the ghost or shadow look of the bottoms in the right indirect light and the serif of the right c seems to be almost at the bow ribbon and the date is far (1 is above 3&4 denticle from neck)... ANY THOUGHTS?... also, has anyone come across ANY 89cc greasers or errors before or even know of any? Thanks
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 Posted 01/15/2015  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Your description sounds like VAM3, far date with the right C set high and the upper serif near the ribbon. I'm not familiar with a greased filled die and there is no mention under the VAM3 listing, however.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
I will post my above topic on a new post with pics. Thanks
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 Posted 02/06/2015  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list

Quote:
I apreciate people correcting me in a respecfull way so I don't keep making the same mistakes over and over without even knowing! :-)

appreciate & respectful

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