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2x2 Holders....how Long Are They Good For?

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 Posted 09/22/2007  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list
That was a very good question. I've never thought about. Thanks for all the replies here.
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 Posted 09/22/2007  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Another thanks for the replies!
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 Posted 09/22/2007  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list
Make sure you crimp(flatten) the staples so that they don't scratch or damage other coins or cut your fingers as you examine them...it's easy, use needle nose pliers...you will protect and enjoy your collection for years to come without spending a fortune on storage.
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 Posted 09/23/2007  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ducky1100 to your friends list
I have a couple dozen that date back to the late 60's (yes, I am that old) the staple is a little rusty and the white cardboard is now light yellow, but the mylar is still is good condition. I truly think that mylar used back then was a little thicker. I see no change damage done to the coin, other than some faint toning on some. I have a couple of UNC Roosevelts that still have GOOD Luster. I see no problem at all with long term storage.
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 Posted 09/23/2007  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list
I find the 2x2's that you staple are fine for storage, but the self-adhesive ones can be a problem. Often the adhesive doesn't stick properly and the coin can fall out of the holder, and the glue can cause toning if the 2x2 separates slightly.

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 Posted 09/23/2007  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list

2X2 from the very early 1960's. You be the judge.

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 Posted 09/23/2007  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
Why were they square? I don't think the mint had any square coins, or did I miss something?
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 Posted 09/23/2007  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list
The best 2x2s are probably Eagle mounts. They are expensive compared to cardboard and thicker so may not fit into regular albums although you can get albums that fit them.
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 Posted 09/23/2007  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
WOW 7070! That's awesome! I never even seen a 2x2 like that.
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 Posted 09/24/2007  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
To answer in a reverse post method: Learjet has sort of hit the nail on the head. In reality, over the years there have been many varieties of 2x2's produced and the properties of them varies with the manufacturer and time frame. I've had coins in some for well over 20 years and no problems. In the past many types of plastics have been used. Some may well be PVC. Some plastics do not last long at all. If you were around with some convertible cars in the 50's and 60's, the rear plastic windows would eventually turn yellowish, dry and crack. Just that type of plastic. Mylars have life expectancy of 1700 years so if your 2x2's are Mylar, they should be safe for about that long. The cardboard also is different with different manufactureres and the time frame but since it does no contact the coins, makes little difference.
Jim1953. I presume you mean a Copper coin that is now green. Note that the term Verdigris is used by many to discribe Copper turning green when in reality, Verdigris is Copper reacting with an Acetate, not normal air/moisture. What you have seen is Copper Carbonate which is normal when Copper is exposed to CO2, H OH and O.
ElleKitty: Great suggestion. However, pliers are on the market with such flat tips and even ones that are hindged so that they close straight, not on an angle. Also, here is another tip. If you have the standard Swingline Brand Stapler. Note that most models have a removable plate where the staples hit. This is made so you can make the edges of the staples go in or out. If you know how to make a new flat plate to put in that location, the staples will be flattened by normal pressure of installation. Problem is the direction of the tips are not predictable.

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 Posted 09/24/2007  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list
7070 Did you actually get that 3 legged buffalo for 10 bucks? Wow I wish I was born about 30 years earlier!
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 Posted 09/24/2007  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 7070 to your friends list
NO, it was my Grandmothers, and sad to say, the missing leg had "help" leaving the coin. I always assumed it was real until I took pictures of it several week ago. The close ups clearly show the tool marks. that is why I left it in the old holder. it is more of a keepsake than a collectors coin.
I posted the closeup pictures on the error forum (topic: is this a 3 leg?)
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 Posted 09/25/2007  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
You are correct, Carl. These are primarily Lincolns. What do you attribute the cause to. It seems reasonable to think that the color was caused by the contact or close proximity to the paper in the 2 x 2. Are you saying that something in the makeup of the holder caused the color change? I will try and post some pics tonight but scanning the edge of a coin may be easier said than done.
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 Posted 11/27/2007  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coggie59 to your friends list
Ive had some problems in the past with the cardboard "dust" causing spotting. But I found if I use a soft cloth to wipe them down before mounting the coin I haven't had a problem since
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 Posted 11/27/2007  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I use compressed air like they sell for cleaning computer keyboards to get rid of the cardboard "dust". I also found that the more expensive 2x2's don't have any dust at all.

Instead of pliers to flatten the staples I use hemostats (since I fly fish I have about 6 pairs around the house). The small size helps me to only flatten the staple.
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