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Bedrock of the Community
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I hope the PCGS coin is a Details slab, because there is not a chance those surfaces are original.
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Thanks everyone. You confirmed my decision. The only reason for my even considering the slabbed coin was that the VF 30 grade did not mention cleaning. The 1835 picture was not great but I liked the looks a lot more. I know, buy the coin. not the slab('  ')
Edited by yooper 03/02/2015 5:16 pm
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superdave, not graded as details. Can't trust the TPG's? It seems that a lot of TPG graded coins that I have looked at lately seem like they should be details or seem to be graded higher than what I would think. Adds to a lot of confusion for us that are still learning.
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The 35 is very nice
Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith
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TPG's aren't infallible. Mistakes happen. Further, the quality of the imagery may be in play.
Who am I kidding? I'm just trying to be kind here.
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Bought the 1835. Will post my own pictures when I receive it.
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If no one else will say it, I will: I no longer trust Slabs. AT ALL! yooper - you did good.
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As everyone else picked, I too go for the 1835. The 1831 was harshly cleaned. Now the 1835 appears to be equal in grade, nicely toned, but also may be the "scarce" subtype Davis-4. I don't see any such upside potential for the slabbed coin. See the John Reich Society web site and back issues of their newsletter or better yet contact them for a reading on whether the 1835 is as scarce as I expect it might be. They would have the variety collectors who would know for sure what premium to assign to it. Good Luck!
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Wow, that 1835 dime is really nice. Great purchase, congrats on the addition to your type set.
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1835 dime is gorgeous. Can't believe the '31 is not a details grade. I am a beginner still, but even I can tell the color is way off. Like SsuperDdave said, though, the image itself might have something to do with it.
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Frankly, I have to believe there's something I'm not seeing here. The coin looks too egregiously harmed to get past them. They're not dummies. Coins get in the ground and then picked up by passers-by all the time. Bet every one of you has picked up a dirty old Quarter off the ground; I know 25C is worth me bending over.  So the coin has an outdoor period when it gets all grubby. Somebody picks it up, spends it, and circulation wears off most of the crud. I could conceive of being able to tell the surface difference between that and a deliberately cleaned coin. Further, I know that light sufficiently bright for digital photography is capable of washing out the surfaces of circulated silver. So there's a (low probability) scenario where I could see that coin get into a righteous slab. It would be worth the look.
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There is a lesson to be learned here: If a given coin raises suspicions, or questions, then it will continue to raise those same questions further down the road. In short: "A problem coin will ALWAYS remain a problem coin." And the converse: "Today's 'WOW' coin, which stands out as uncommonly found so nice, will continue to "WOW" years from now."
A VG-8 example with unquestioned surfaces trumps a F-12 with, uh, questions.
This has been the hardest lesson for me to learn. I wish that I learned it sooner.
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The first set of images in that auction presents the coin in a much different light, especially the reverse.
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