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Best Guide For Acetone And Verdicare

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 Posted 06/06/2015  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
I did see some instructions for verdicare but how does that tie in with acetone? Do I do acetone first? How do I fish the coin back out and dispose of the acetone properly?
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 Posted 06/06/2015  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
With pure acetone be aware of the safety issues. It is a highly flammable product.
I use a glass jar with a lid.
The first soak could be hours or more just keep checking on the progress.
The second soak should be a different batch of acetone in a clean jar.This is the rinse step and important.
Do some before and after pictures for us.
Good luck.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
Do the acetone first then the VerdiCare. The acetone does not affect my skin but it may you. I just pluck the coin out dump the acetone on some rocks outside.
Acetone has a high evaporation rate.
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06/06/2015 12:52 pm
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 Posted 06/06/2015  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
It's always helpful to post pictures of your conservation projects.

You can find a lot of posts about VC here in the forums, just use the search function. It's also well documented:

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/fil...Care-FAQ.pdf

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/fil...ructions.pdf

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/fil...-Results.pdf
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 Posted 06/06/2015  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Something to try first is plain olive oil, pushing gently at the verdigris with a wood toothpick. I've had a lot of success using this.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Personally, I can't stand olive oil...best left for salads!

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 Posted 06/07/2015  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Personally, I can't stand olive oil...best left for salads!
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 Posted 06/07/2015  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizzy1 to your friends list
oil makes it impossible to use acetone. leaves an tough barrier for any "conservation". Do I clean my coins? you be the judge.
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 Posted 06/07/2015  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wizzy1 to your friends list
this was aggressive acetone. Bath, Ultrasound, sable brush.
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 Posted 06/07/2015  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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oil makes it impossible to use acetone. leaves an tough barrier for any "conservation".


Acetone is an organic solvent which would instantly strip any olive oil residue off a coin. You don't use olive oil because it's an acid, plain and simple. And honestly? Yeah, that 1863 looks cleaned. The surfaces have plainly been ameliorated.

Acetone and Verdi-Care are two entirely different animals, for two entirely different purposes. The former is only for PVC plasticizer contamination, the latter for verdigris. Uses of each above and beyond that fall into the "am I cleaning this coin?" grey area.

According to Thad - who should know - Verdi-Care will also handle PVC but given the usage method acetone (or xylene) is the better tool as it's far cheaper.

So the only way to help you, sa330206, is to know what problems you face with your coins - PVC or verdigris? They look similar. What needs fixed?
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 Posted 06/07/2015  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
How do I tell the difference in PVC and verdigris damage? Also I am on a well so do I need to buy distiller water to rinse with after getting the coin out of the acetone or will my tap water be ok? I wish I could post pictures but my iPhone ones never turn out. I probably have 1000+ wheats and some nickels that have some sort of "green" damage. Obviously I can't fix them all but I can test on 40s or 50s wheats before attempting a fix on my 13-s. Thanks!
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 Posted 06/07/2015  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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Acetone is an organic solvent which would instantly strip any olive oil residue off a coin.


Actually, oils are only partially soluble in acetone (polar organic solvent). The best choice for oil removal is xylene since it's a non-polar solvent (oils are non-polar, like dissolves like).
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 Posted 06/07/2015  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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How do I tell the difference in PVC and verdigris damage?


PVC damage is the result of storing coins in PVC holders which degrade over time releasing hydrochloric acid (HCl) in a gummy, polymeric matrix. The HCl reacts with copper in the coin producing verdigris mixed in with the residue (that's why PVC residue is green).

If your coins have not been stored in a PVC type holder, then you do not have it. Simple verdigris is generally a dry-looking, crusty residue and is the most common type of corrosion problem. It forms simply with the exposure to air. Chances are this is what you're seeing on your coins.
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 Posted 06/07/2015  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LibertyEagle20 to your friends list
Here are some examples of coins I'd like to "save." The 1913-S is the one in the middle row to the right of the Buffalo nickel. It also has 3 tiny green spots on the front.

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I also have this dirty looking large cent. Maybe this is a candidate for Acetone?

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Also BadThad, how do you make the most money from Verdicare? Wizard coin supply? ebay? Or do you sell direct?

Thanks!

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It doesn't matter but if you send me a PM using this forum, I offer a discount to CC members.
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