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Please Grade 1880-CC Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 06/23/2015  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Grade is FA-0 (Fake 0) -- a bad cast copy and they didn't even get the reverse remotely close to real.

I knew it as soon as I saw the mintmark but the rest of the coin is equally bogus.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
with SsuperDdave
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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
The first thing that caught my eye was the sink on the obverse at TY in LIBERTY. That just didn't happen on real Morgans. Next the date was way off followed by the stars looking more like they came out of a box of lucky charms.

Hope you knew this was a counterfeit matttheriley..
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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
I don't think this is genuine. E Pluribus Unum lacks sharpness and the bust lacks detail I would expect.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
That acid dipped looking surface is the biggest giveaway. Then the secondary markers d700 pointed out. Like if you saw a home computer printed $100 bill using the wrong color green. Same thing
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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
Ok, this is why I LOVE this forum! I did purchase this KNOWING it was a counterfeit. It weighs in at 25.6g. It is not magnetic, and it even passes the ring test. I wanted an example for my "black" cabinet to help me learn more about CC Morgans. I haven't purchased one, and I don't think I would unless it was from a VERY reputable dealer. I am glad I did, because I now know a lot more about what to look for in a real one, but I could see how even this one could fool a novice (read ME). Now, should I leave a negative feedback for the sleazy seller on ebay who is peddling these for $6? 111684244443

Thanks for your input folks, I hope you don't mind me playing a little trick on you all?

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 Posted 06/23/2015  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Not sure what you'd report. Seller is in China, and the price was in Euros so the coin wasn't even listed in the US.
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 Posted 06/23/2015  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
I could at least drop a negative feedback on him though!
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 Posted 06/24/2015  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list
The CC on the back stands for Counterfeit Carson
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 Posted 06/24/2015  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
That ebay account looks like it's run by that site we aren't allowed to talk about.

Like seriously, the horizontal watermark.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
My first thought was counterfeit. Glad to see that I am right.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
100% copy. You will get your money back with ebay buyer's protection. Open up a dispute "Item not as described". I've done it.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
Wouldn't you think that would be dishonest? I paid $6 KNOWING it was fake.
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 Posted 06/24/2015  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list
Sorry I did not read all the messages. I'll leave it at you could get your money back if you want to. How's that? :)
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 Posted 06/24/2015  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list
Ha ha, thanks! But somehow I don't want to be on the same level as those scammers!
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