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Pillar of the Community
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It could be genuine, but it would require a second error -- a weak strike. It's highly unlikely that such a rare double-denomination error would occur with a striking error of this nature. In all other quarter-on-nickel errors I've seen, the nickel design is almost completely obliterated, in part because nickels are thicker than quarters. I suspect a pair of counterfeit dies were used.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5828 Posts |
And there you have it, folks. Most likely fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
I was thinking counterfit dies mike. Nice to know you think the same thing
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6478 Posts |
Mike, were those State Quarters on top of nickels? Do you think that because of the lower pressure strike and shallow relief of the State Quarters (to preserve the life of the dies) that the designs would not be totally obliterated? Could we see some pics of a legit error?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've seen a few State Quarters on nickels and the nickel design is largely effaced. The shallower design of the State Quarters would, if anything, increase the likelihood that the nickel details would be obliterated. I don't have any images stored on my computer.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it's counterfeit dies, we'll be seeing more coins as they'll want to turn a profit over the cost of the dies. If it truly was a Weak Strike, the cost of that coin will escalate the next time it's sold.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6478 Posts |
Ok, thank you for your opinion Mike. Highly appreciated. I guess it is real fake! But possibly real. I wonder if it would be slabbed as an error?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to agree. The image is not mirrored. Rotate both pictures 180 degrees and:   Can't say if it is fake or not.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
An interesting coin and thread for sure. Without it being certified in some manner I would assume it is not a genuine mint error.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2738 Posts |
One of the best ways to hide a counterfeit die is to employ it in a weak strike. That way the majority of tool marks and other imperfections will be omitted. For the same reason, certification is no guarantee that a weak strike is genuine. I've seen at least one probable counterfeit weak strike in a top tier slab -- a Buffalo nickel struck seven times. I've also seen a number of fully-struck counterfeit error coins in top-tier slabs. The coin under discussion would have to be examined under a microscope by someone familiar with struck counterfeits.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
Hey mike, fyi, I pm'd you about something else 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6478 Posts |
Slamnbass? Why do you keep saying wow?
Thanks again mike.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this can happen just like there are numerous 11¢ double denomination, and if this is genuine deliberate Mint made error, it could be very rare that it slip through the crack.
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